"MARVEL COMICS: THE BLOKE IN THE BAR VS MR. AMNESIA"
WITNESS 12: Hasan Pruthi
Testimony begins on page 1441
Slobo cross examines on page 1464
Watson: I say Holmes, I heard that the next witness, a Mr Pruthi, got rave reviews in the MSM.
Holmes: Yes, they wax postively lyrical over his testimony. The Washington Post for instance were deeply impressed: " describing more than a decade of discrimination his people suffered at the hands of Serb authorities.........He said Serb forces set fire to the old part of the city of Djakovica when NATO's bombing began in March 1999. "There are hundreds and hundreds of witnesses who saw Serb troops set fire to the old part of town. It is a fact""
Watson: That beast, Slobo. How inhumane of you to do such wickedly nasty and nastily wicked things to civilians..........grrrrrrrrrr!...... ( makes silly dog impression ) .....Hold on, why did he talk of 100's of eye witnesses to Serb atrocities yet he, who wasn't there, was called instead?
Holmes: Good point. So far throughout the trial we've seen a Mr Amnesia and also a certain Mr Bloke in the bar have both figured prominently. In this witness's testimony you'll be able to see them go against each other, one to one.
Watson: Like Ali VS Frazier?
Holmes: All but identical. Two heavyweights slugging it out.
Watson: Bring it on!!!
Holmes: Steady on! A few details to get out of the way before the slugfest can begin. He was in Djakovica on the 10th of October, 1947. He's a lawyer and currently working as a legal advisor for the Norwegian Council of Refugees, and he worked as a judge, first in the Municipal Court of Djakovica from 1976 to 1978, and after, in Gjakove Business Court from 1978 to 1991? He's a Kosovo Albanian. He says that the Kosovo Albanians were discrimminated against in the courts
Watson: Seconds out!! .........( rings imaginary bell )....... Ding ding!
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Question: Mr. Pruthi, during all the time that you worked as a lawyer and as a judge in Kosovo, more specifically in Djakovica did you notice any difference in treatment between Serbs and Albanians?
Witness: Of course I noticed a difference. I might say that in 1991, the Serbian parliament at that time made a discriminatory decision according to which the Commercial Court of Djakovica district was dissolved and about 40 employees were left on the streets without work.
Question: Mr. Pruthi, why you say that this decision was a discriminatory decision?
Witness: Because this court was an adjudicating court, and this decision was taken at a time when the Federal Ministry of Yugoslavia had given -- had greatly praised the work of this court, and there was no reason to dissolve it at all.
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In addition, he claimed that Kosovo Albanians had difficulty registering their business
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Question: Were there a lot of applications by Albanians to register their firms?
Witness: There were applications to register firms because this was a year when the law on enterprises came into effect. It was the time of Ante Markovic. And according to this law, people were given the opportunity to register private companies and to turn their property and to start joint enterprises with public enterprises. So this court was responsible for enforcing this law and registering various kinds of property.
Question: And how did the abolishment of this court by the Serb parliament affect the Albanians?
Witness: Because this court extended its authority over the entire plane of Dukagjin. It was involved in administering the economic life of this entire part of Kosovo. So the abolition of this court, it was a blow to this entire part of Kosovo.
Question: Mr. Pruthi, if the Albanians wanted to register their private business at that time, with the abolishment of that court, where they had to go?
Witness: At that time, there were two courts working in Kosovo. There was the Pristina economic court and the one in Djakovica which was abolished. Albanians at that time who wanted to register their court [sic] at the Economic Court in Pristina were instructed and were unable to register their firms because the officers of that court refused to register them after the Djakovica court was abolished.
Question: There was any particular reason why they couldn't register their firms in Pristina?
Witness: According to the rules, any refusal of an application by citizens, any registration of a company needed a written reason of any failure to register it, and the court didn't supply these but merely refused them orally.
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He claimed that Albanians were treated much worse than Serbs
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( 1446 )
Witness: The treatment was not the same, in fact, because the applications of Albanians dragged and were prolonged and were not settled for a long time, while Serbian applications were settled immediately. And a large number of Albanian applications were also refused.
Question: Do you know -- do you personally know Albanians who had problems in obtaining this authorisation?
Witness: There were plenty of cases but I can't give you a name.
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Watson: ARF
Holmes: He can't give a single example.
Watson: Snigger.
Holmes: It gets funnier
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( 1446 )
Question:How many applications between -- how many Serbian applications were admitted in comparison with how many Albanian applications were denied?
Witness: The Serbian percentage, when I'm talking about Kosovo, there were fewer applications, of course, from Kosovo, from Serbs, than from Albanians. But as I said before, the Albanian applications were refused and some others were settled, but over a very long period.
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Watson: So he doesn't give any concrete numbers, in fact all he can say is "some Albanian applications were refused and some others were settled".
Holmes: Exactly. So some were accepted and some weren't. Like in every system in the world. It's called reality. So basically it's just his unsubstantiated opinion . He's got no names as examples or numbers to back any of it up .
Watson: ARF
Holmes: He claimed that only Serbian was used in courts, not Albanian
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Question: While performing your duties as a lawyer and a judge as well, what was the language used in applications and documents?
Witness: As you know, before the overthrow of Kosovo's autonomy, Albanian was an official language, but not afterwards, so that communications in the district courts were made only in Serbian. I'm talking about the municipal court in Djakovica. And applications in writing always had to be made in the Serbian language. If they were made in Albanian, they were immediately sent back and refused by the office.
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Watson: I say, Holmes, what's his definition of the KLA
Holmes: His definition of the KLA? You know them. They have links with Al Qaeda, slaughtered loyalist Kosovo Albanians in their hundreds prior to 1999 and continued after NATO took over. About 3,000 Kosovo Serbs were wiped out after NATO took over and every minority is history in Kosovo. Everyone. They accomplished Judenfrei in 99, they dominate the heroin and sex slave business and flog semtex to the Real IRA in their spare time.
Watson: Yes, them.
Holmes: Well, it seem the ICTY's witness has a slightly different definition of these charmers . Slightly different
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( 1447 )
Witness: The KLA was a force that appeared during the war in Kosovo, a force that was -- stood by the unarmed people who were suffering, were defenceless, and they always defended the population who were in such danger from the murderous Serbian forces
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Watson: And my name's Gunga Din.
Holmes: He tells of events in late 1998
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( 1451 )
Witness:Yes. I remember well the flight of a part of the population from the villages roundabout Djakovica in 1998. These people streamed toward and Djakovica were pushed by Serbian police and military forces and were forced to leave their houses. These people told how they were chased by Serbian police and army, how their houses were burned, and some were killed by their fellow villagers and were always taunted by the words and were told to leave their house -- to leave their houses as soon as possible and go to Albania because what were they looking for here in Kosovo? The population told how they were obliged by this horror to leave their villages.
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Watson: And how did he know?
Holmes: I think you know the answer to that. You guessed it, it's our old friend, "the bloke in the pub". You can't keep a good guy down.
Watson: Howdy doody bloke in the bar. So "bloke in the bar" gets on the scoreboard.
BITB ( Bloke In The Bar ) 1: Mr Amnesia 0
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Question: Did you personally speak with the villagers that arrived in Djakovica?
Witness: I spoke to these villagers personally because we were helping to accommodate them in various houses in Djakovica at this time.
Question: And did they tell who was pushing them away from their villages?
Witness: Yes, they did. They had not yet left their homes when they saw their homes in fire. They saw it with their own eyes
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Watson: But why couldn't the ICTY simply have called the witnesses who seen all this?
Holmes: Good point. Because it's all crap? All lies? All a web of fibs? A box of nonsense?
Watson: Anyway, bloke in the bar is off to a rowsing start.
BLIB 2: Mr. Amnesia 0
Hmmmmmmmmm. What about NATO's bombing campaign.
Holmes: NATO bombing? Boy, was it accurate. It seems they only hit Serb military installations. ONLY. Nothing else was even scratched. Not a cut, bruise or blemish ( 1454 )
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Question:Was any part of the town hit by the bombing?
Witness: No, it was not. They bombed the depots, the military barracks,and some other depots, military depots, which were located at Cabrat Hill. These were the two targets hit by NATO then, at that night
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Watson: WOW!! That's accurate.
Holmes: There were some fires but it seems these were started by, yup , the Serbs themselves
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( 1453 )
Witness:I saw the old part of the town, Carshia e Madhe, otherwise known by this name. It was all set on fire. It has cultural, historical value, and that night it was all on fire. I was informed that it was the Serbian police that set fire to this part of the town using a special substance, to all the stores of the marketplace, and they also killed some people living there, whose houses are found in this part of the town. Several people were killed, among whom well-known Doctor Izet -- in front of his own family members. Izet Hima.
Question:How do you know that, Mr. Pruthi? Who told you that?
Witness: His own family members told this. They testified to his murder to the Council for the Protection of Human Rights and Freedoms, where I was also present.
Question: Did the doctor -- was he killed at the same time while the old part of the town was burning and in flames?
Witness: Yes. At the same time, Dr. Hima was killed, in the most brutal manner, in front of the eyes of his family.
Question:Mr. Pruthi, at the time you saw the flames was a very few hours after you saw the NATO airplanes. How do you know the burning of the old centre was not a result of the NATO bombing?
Witness: The flames appeared much later than the NATO planes left. This was certain, a certain fact. There are hundreds of people who saw with their own eyes Serbian police setting fire to this old part of the town. Hundreds and hundreds of witnesses have been there. So it's a fact that everybody has been testifying to.
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Holmes: Yup, it's our friendly tinker, "the bloke in the bar", again. Hundreds of witnesses saw this guy get murdered by the Serbs. HUNDREDS do you hear. But the ICTY didn't bother calling any of them, and instead relied on, altogether now, "the bloke in the bar"
Watson: ARF!!!
BLIB 3: Mr. Amnesia 0
Holmes: And he said that on the 2nd night he heard some people say "Go to Albania , leave Serbia". My, that's what I call a war crime, I can see the headlines now "Serbia charged for war crimes when a Serb is heard saying "leave my country at once". How evil can one get".
At 6 am the following morning , his wife's cousin's husband was killed, a Shevqet Pruthi. He went to see the body and noted that he "saw that both his soles were damaged from the fire of the automatic rifles, and part of his hand was also damaged, and his body was full of holes in the chest and in some other parts."
Watson: Did he see this death?
Holmes: NOPE.
Watson: Did his wife see this death?
Holmes: NOPE
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( 1457 )
Question: Did his wife -- did his wife see what happened to him?
Witness: She didn't see what happened. This criminal deed was committed in the very eyes of his daughter. Arta is her name. She saw her father killed in front of her eyes. She saw her father die in front of her eyes.
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Watson: So, this is essentially, "Son of Bloke in Bar"
BITB 4: Mr. A 0
And the question on everyone's lips is "What's happened to Mr. Amnesia?" He looked so good in the build up. Holmes: Yes he did. Or perhaps this should be down to daughter of Bloke in Bar. Now, cynics amongst you will be wondering why the daughter wasn't called as a witness.
Watson: Erm. Good question. Why indeed.
Holmes: He stayed in his sisters house till April 2nd ( 1458 )
The following should give you an idea of the wretchedness of the testimony. We're talking bollox here, folks
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( 1458 )
Witness: During all this time, from 8.00 fire shots started. First the light went out and then automatic shots started. It was the sign that the Serbian police began its operations in various neighbourhoods of the city
Question: Mr. Pruthi, did you see who was shooting?
Witness: I didn't see who did the shooting, but on the 1st of April, when the Serbian police came to a neighbour, they threw some substance in the two upper floors of of his house, and then I saw the flames engulfing all the house.
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Watson: Sounds okay to me, Holmes
Holmes: But note that, firstly, he assumes the "lights out" was a signal for the Serb forces to start operations. He doesn't know anything, or see anything, it's just his assumption. Next, the bloke in the bar, of course. Where would we be without him, I ask. And of course he doesn't know that the "substance" the Serbs threw was some chemical to start fires. How could he? He just assumes it all.
He said "the police surrounded, encircled all the neighbourhood and started to kill and set fire to the houses". ( 1459 ) He didn't see it it's just his assumption.
He also "saw fire brigade coming, driving by, going to the houses on fire. Then on the next day, I found out that this truck protected a house of a Serbian inhabitant not to be burnt as a result of a burning house of an Albanian citizen that was close by to this house of the Serb. This is what the witnesses told me on the next day". ( 1459 )
Watson: Sad sad sad.
Holmes: And so the hearsay crap continues, and continues. It just spews out, pouring forth. FFS. An example
Watson: Language Timothy.
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( 1460 )
Question: How do you know that 20 Albanians were killed? Who told you?
Witness:I found out on the next day from the people who withdrew from this neighbourhood, and they had seen many people died. Apart from -- inaddition to this 20 that I'm talking about, they told me that they had left many people behind because they had to flee in a hurry. They didn't have time to see what was happening, you know. And they were told to go to Albania because that was not their place, they were told
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BLIB 5: Mr. A 0. The rout continues.
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Witness: This happened on the 2nd of April when in the yard of my home, of my house, I saw many Albanians had gathered there, and together we were discussing what to do. And then we heard that we had to organise to go to Albania, because we heard the police saying on that very day when they were driving out people from their own homes to flee these houses and go to Albania. This is what they were told.
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Watson: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH !!!!!!!!!
BLIB 6: Mr. A 0. Talk about a mismatch.
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Question:Mr. Pruthi, why did you decide to leave your town and Kosovo?
Witness: I decided to leave the city and to leave Kosovo because I saw with my own eyes people killed. I saw horror, fire. I heard from other people the most terrible stories of what they had experienced in their own homes, so I decided to leave Kosovo and to save the lives of my children.
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Holmes: Just to repeat, "I decided to leave the city and to leave Kosovo" . We've yet to have a single witness claim they were forced out of Kosovo by the Serb forces.
Slobo's cross examination
Watson: How did it go?
Holmes: How can I put this? The guy didn't have a prayer against Slobo, not a prayer. Bear in maind that the witness had testified that he'd lost his job when the Commercial Court in Djakovica in 1991 was dissolved. Now a funny exchange. The court was dissolved but the witness claimed "the reasons given at the time were not correct." ( 1464 ) So........
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Slobo:And what were those reasons that were stipulated?
Witness: I don't remember. I don't remember.
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Watson: ARF!!!!Holmes: Yessir, he can't remember what the reasons were, but whatever they were, he knows for sure they weren't correct.
Watson: Brilliant
Holmes: He had to admit that the Serbs who worked there also lost their jobs . He countered that they found other jobs , so Slobo counters that with "I assume that you found another job too, as far as I can read from these documents here" ( 1465 )
Watson: Easy meat for Slobo
Holmes: And so it goes on, the witness serves up a lame lob, Slobo thunders it right back with interest. For example
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1465 )
Slobo:You said that the Albanians would apply to have their companies registered.
Witness: On the basis of the law.
Slobo: Of course on the basis of the law. Did Serbs make applications to register their own companies too?
Witness: There were a few applications.
Slobo:So both the Serbs and the Albanians would make their applications to register their companies in the same place; is that right?
Witness: Yes.
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The witness had claimed that Albanians couldn't start a business. Another lame lob for Slobo to smash back
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( 1467 )
Witness: Oral replies were given immediately and they were told that they didn't have the right to register. This happened at the Pristina court, and people who submitted applications were mistreated. A very small number did register.
Slobo: You're a lawyer yourself, and you should know, you ought to know that on the basis of that law, if you do not receive registration in a brief period of time, it is considered that the company is registered lawfully. In the law it is stated that if there is no reply after a certain deadline, after a short period of time has elapsed, it is considered that the answer and response has been automatically allowed and that the company has been registered. This was a provision to avoid corruption, discrimination, friendly ties with officials. So I'm well aware of provisions of this kind.
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Watson: ARF!!
Holmes: On page 1469, Slobo points out that on the 24th of March, when the war broke out on the territory of the municipality of Djakovica, there were 8.900 privately owned firms owned by Albanians and they were operating normally
Watson: Almost 9,000?
Holmes: Yep ,in one municipality there were almost 9,000 privately run KOSOVO ALBANIAN businesses. The witness doesn't deny it. And when asked to explain that "from 1994, 861 gasoline stations were registered in Kosovo and only 20 of them were Serb owned out of 861" all he could say was the less than brilliant "I don't know that".
Watson: ARF!!'
Holmes: Slobo then points out the discrimmination against the NON Kosovo Albanian population
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( 1470 )
Slobo: In your municipality, there was one case. For example, in the village of Meca, in the 1980s, Miodrag Saric was killed in his field, before the eyes of his entire family, because he did not want to sell his field. Do you remember that case?
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And
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Slobo:Very well. Are you aware of other pressure and murders in order to force people to sell their property and leave their property behind?
Witness: No, I don't know of any such cases.
Slobo: Very well. Do you remember, for example, the village of Ratis, which is near you, how many families left that village - that's in your neighbourhood - and left their property because of beatings, rapes, torchings, in the 1980s? Do you remember these examples from the village of Ratis?
Witness:No, I don't remember.
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Slobo points out the many forgeries and irregularities that his court carried out , and the witness starts to blub to the judges with this pile of blubber
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Witness: Distinguished Judge, I think such questions are irrelevant. I am not called here to explain the procedure, I think, of the parliament or of the law, Your Honour.
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Watson: Oh, boo hoo hoo, you friggin' Nancy boy
Holmes: Language Timothy. Some more giggles
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Slobo:In response the Prosecutor's question as to whether Serbs were refused in terms of their requests, you said that there were far less applications by Serbs. And now my question is whether Serbs were also refused like Albanians were refused?
Witness: I don't remember that.
Slobo: Did anything in that law pertain to Albanians only?
Witness: The Albanians were not allowed to sell their properties without having the consent of this ministry first.
Slobo: I'm asking you whether the Serbs were allowed to sell their property without the consent of the ministry.
Witness: The Serbs who lived in Kosovo did not allow to sell their properties without having the approval of this ministry either.
Slobo: That means that Serbs and Albanians were in the same position.
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Mr. Amnesia gets onto the scoreboard. It's BITB 6: Mr. A 1. But has he left it too late?
It's like taking candy from a baby, or in this case, heroin from the KLA. About not being allowed to use the Albanian language in court, etc
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Slobo: Do you know that in the law of the Republic of Serbia governing use of language, it says that in municipalities in which national minorities comprise the majority population, the language of the national minority concerned is equally used officially with -- along with the Serbian language throughout the territory of Serbia?
Witness: I explained earlier that this right was trampled in the most flagrant manner.
Slobo: I asked you whether you know that this is what the law says quite strictly, what I quoted a minute ago.
Witness: Yes. I said that the right existed, but it was not enforced in real terms.
Slobo: Do you know that this law also applies to Bulgarians where they are the majority, for Hungarians where they are the majority, for all other national minorities on the territory in Serbia and that it is observed everywhere?
Witness: I don't know whether that law has been respected also in other territories. I don't know.
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The KLA And Amnesia
Holmes: Boy has this lad got it bad. And I mean real bad, daddio. (
( 1474 )
Slobo: You said that the KLA appeared during the war. Can you answer the following question: Who, then, killed so many people before the war in terrorist attacks?
Witness: I don't know that. ( Mr Amnesia scores again.)
Slobo: Well, do you know that this was done by the KLA?
Witness: No. This fact I don't know. ( Mr. A 3 )
Slobo:You don't know?
Witness: No, I don't. No, I am not informed about that.
Slobo: Do you know that from the 1st of January, 1998, until the war broke out, that is to say just before the war broke out, the terrorists killed -- the terrorists killed 186 citizens who were ethnic Albanians?
WItness: I don't know this fact. ( Mr. A. 4 )
Slobo: And do you know how many households from the municipality of Djakovica were expelled at that time due to ethnic cleansing?
Witness: What families, please?
Slobo:Serb families. I'm going to read out a number of them to you. Perhaps you will remember at least some of these families from your municipality, because you were a judge there. Babovic Miloje, then Milinko Babovic, Bogoslav Babovic, Branko Jekic, Milun Fatic [phoen], Zoran Fatic, Mika Vulic [phoen], Damjan Garic, Bogoslav Garic, Hodzoma Slovic [phoen], Radila Kicevic [phoen], Jelica Jukic, Miljic Stijovic [phoen], Slobodan Vuksanovic, Ranko Vukadinovic, Petrosav Vuksanovic , Dragutin Frentic [phoen], Nusko Stejanovic [phoen], Predrag Micunovic, Aleksandra Stojanovic, Spasoj Petkovic [phoen], Dragan Petkovic, Fron Gagovic [phoen], Vejo Ibrahimovic [phoen], Vojin Petkovic --
Judge: Mr. Pruthi, do you recognise any of those names? Can you help us about any of them?
Witness: I don't know these names, but I didn't keep any evidence of migration from the town. ( Mr Amnesia 5 )
Slobo: But you lived in that town. You probably know some of these people. You probably know that they were forced out of there. Are you trying to say that you do not know any one of these people, any one of these cases?
Witness: I don't remember these people migrating because they were forced. ( Mr A 6 )
Slobo: All right. Let me remind you of some of the other names. Perhaps you knew them, and I did not read those names out. Do any of these names mean something to you? The families, I'm reading the heads of families. Milorad Radovanovic, Karovic Vujadin, Delovic Petar, Delovic Nikola, Delovic Anica, Srenev Bozidar [phoen], Jevtovic Dusan, Sarenac Roza, Bibercic Draga, Bibercic Marija, Sarovic Mara, Kovacevic Bozidar, Grubisic Nediljka [phoen], Krstic Mirko, Arandzelovac Zoran, Babovic Slobodan, Babovic Savka, Vulevic Savka, Soskic Misko, Vulevic Radan, Vulevic Vujicka [phoen], Mitic Slavko [phoen], Adzic Boris, Lakic Bosko, Dzakovic Blagoje , Simonovic Drago, Zindivic Rajko [phoen], Pantic Ljubica, Radojcic Nikola, Pantic Dragoljub, Pantic Dragomir, Pantic Momcilo, Tun Kasnjeti --
Judge:Just pause. Again, do you know any of these names?
Witness: I don't know any of them. I said before that I didn't keep any evidence of these things, and I don't know these names.
Mr Amnesia 7
Slobo:There is a list of 80 families here that were expelled. The former president of the court, and lawyer, does not know of a single case, and all of them are from Djakovica.
I shall move on to the next question, because you talked about the situation in the municipality in response to the Prosecutor's questions related to tensions in the municipality, along with the explanation that these tensions were generated by the Serb police from 1980 onwards. Do you know of killings in the territory of the municipality of Djakovica from the beginning of 1998 until the outbreak of the war on the 24th of March, 1999, for example, the policemen that were killed: On the 1st of August, 1998, Zeljko Bozic, policeman; on the 10th of August, 1998, Zoran Jovanovic. Do you know of any one of them?
WItness: No, I don't know.
Mr Amnesia 8
Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Sasa Jovanovic, policeman, on the 14th of June, 1998?
Witness: No. I know only of some citizens of Gjakove who were killed and were found in the morning on the outskirts of the city.
Slobo: Do you know of the killing of a policeman on the 29th of January, 1999? The policeman was called Predrag Rakovic.
Witness; No.
Mr Amnesia 9
Slobo:Do you know of the killing of the policeman Nebojsa Savic on the 5th of August, 1998?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 10
Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Zoran Slavkovic, also a policeman, on the 8th of March, 1999?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia Eeeeeeeeeleven
Slobo: And Slavoljub Stanisavljevic, also on the 8th of March, 1999? Do you know of the killing of these policemen?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia Tweeeeeeelveeeeeeer
Slobo:All right. And do you know about the killing of Albanians, Albanian civilians, in the territory of Djakovica from the beginning of 1998 until the 24th of March, 1999? Pajak Binak, killed on the 4th of May, 1998? Do you know about him?
Witness:No, I've never heard of him. ( 13 yawn )
Slobo: And do you know of the killing of Nisa Nedjar [phoen] on the 19th of May, 1998? The 19th of May, 1998.
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 14 nods off
Slobo: And do you know of the killing of Abaz Hoti on the 18th of July, 1998?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 15 deep sleep
Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Krasniqi Prec on the 6th of August, 1998?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 16 very deep sleep
Slobo:And Krasniqi Prend? They were both killed on the same day. And Merturi Mira and Merturi Prend?
WItness: No.
Mr Amnesia 17 wakes up
Slobo:All four on the same day?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 18 nods off again
Slobo:And do you know of the killing of Dreni Zef on the 29th of October, 1998?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 19 becomes Buddhist monk and moves to Lhasa
Slobo:That happened in Djakovica. What about Kelmendi Haxhi, on the 24th of January, 1999?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 20 Returns. Didn't like the high altitude
Slobo: That is the 24th of January, 1999, when Kelmendi Besim and Kelmendi Shaban and Kurti Samir were killed, as well as Kurti Hisin [phoen]. You don't remember this big killing?
Witness: No.
Mr Amnesia 21. Returns to Lhasa
Slobo: Gentlemen, I am asking questions with respect to the killings of Albanians in the Djakovica municipality, and Djakovica is not an overly large town, and every citizen of that municipality must have known about these killings; not one of them, but many of them. There are a large number of them here that I have quoted.
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The judge put and end to the slaughter. The witness has been impaled by Slobo. Then after all of this , the witness is asked ( 1490 ) "Who was doing the killing before the war, as far as you were aware? If you can assist us, tell us; if you can't, just say so."
The witness replies with the slightly under par "I don't know". Indeed he doesn't
Slobo rams the final nail into the witness's coffin.
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( 1490 )
Slobo: I used the word that was used by the witness, namely, that it was the police who made problems. And as I presented an enormous list of killings which the KLA terrorists committed, precisely on the territory of Djakovica municipality up until the start of the war, I wanted to hear from the witness how he assesses the situation. Who actually caused all this? Was it really the police or was it the terrorists who had killed so many people, and, for the most part, civilians, as you can see, and amongst them, a large number of Albanians, too, as you can see. Let me remind you that 196 Albanians were killed by the KLA
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Watson: BRAVO SLOBO
The witness makes a bold but slightly ridiculous claim
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( 1491 )
Slobo: Did NATO planes hit any houses in Djakovica? Let me put it that way.
Witness: No. No NATO aircraft hit any house. I can say so with a full sense of responsibility.
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Holmes: Slobo shows hims photos of damage from the bombings. I mean it's beyond pathetic, really. A quarter of a billion bucks a year and the best we get is this monkey?
Watson: Fuck a duck
Holmes: Language Timothy. The witness can not be stopped and repeats his claim
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Witness: The bombing caused no fires in houses of the city of Djakovica, not a single house.
Slobo: How do you know that?
WItness: Everybody knows this. All the citizens of Djakovica know this. It's a well-known truth. Not a single bomb from a single NATO aircraft ever fell on a roof of a house in Djakovica
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Watson: You can not be serious.
Holmes: Yes , you read it straight, NATO, whose missiles landed in Bulgaria, Chinese embassies, etc were spot on when it came to little Djakovica. SPOT ON. It's all those carrots their pilots eat.
Watson: So Slobo tells him how many bombs fell from NATO planes ( page 1504 ). Go on, take a guess, how many landed in the city? I'll give you a clue. It's more than two.
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Slobo: Do you know that during the war, 898 bombs were thrown on Djakovica - the area of Djakovica, that is - 898 bombs fell there?
Witness: No, I don't know this.
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BITB 6: Mr. A 22. Well, surely the comeback of the year. Bloke in the bar looked out for the count but 22 unanswered points leaves him in an impregnable position. Back to you Bob
Holmes: 8 9 8 BOMBS ON A SMALLISH TOWN. 8 9 8. Think about that. 8 9 8. About the police shooting at about 500 Kosovo Albanians
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Slobo: You said that the police shot when 500 of you had been gathered there. Who did the police shoot at? You said that they didn't shoot at you, so who did the police shoot at? Was it only the police who were doing the shooting or anybody else? Do you know anything about that?
Witness: People saw the police with their own eyes, firing at Albanian civilians.
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BITB 7: Mr. Amnesia 22. Hold the bus, he's back. Mr A is back with a bang. Over to you Bob
Holmes: Yes , he's back , the bloke in the bar. He claimed that all the destruction was done by the Serbs in the town and none by the KLA or NATO. NONE
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Slobo: Do you have any idea at all as to who in Djakovica killed during the war -- here I have a list of 11 policemen. The ones I read out earlier on was before the war, but who killed 11 policemen in Djakovica during the war? That's what I'm asking you now. Do you have any idea?
Witness: I have no knowledge of this.
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Watson: Aaaaaaah! The poor lad can't explain it.
Holmes: Indeed, the wee ladee is most lost. The poor lad said the Serb police treated the refugees in a most "brutal manner". Yes, brutal. Like really mean. Brutish. Thuggish. You get the picture. So Slobo asks him to describe the brutality in more detail. Any squeamish people should stop reading and seek counselling. This is pretty horrific brutality
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Slobo: Could you tell me what was this mistreatment, this brutal way that they treated them? You did not explain that anybody mistreated you on your way to the border.
Witness: Don't you think it's an act of mistreatment when Serbian police, when we arrived at the first roadblock, in the most harsh way mistreated the citizens in their cars, asking them to hand over their IDs, ridiculing them, and showing them the place where they were to go from where they would never return to Kosovo they told them?
Slobo: So they were mistreating them by asking for their IDs. Is that what the police did?
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Watson: I say, that's terrible treatment. Sacrcasm and mocking. How long can human beings sink?
Holmes: Yep. They took the piss and asked for their IDs. The bastards, how long can one sink. Outrageous.
Watson: ARF
Loyalist Kosovo Albanians
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Slobo: Do you know that not a single Albanian from the 18 villages of the Djakovica municipality where Albanian Catholics lived did not move out, did not leave his or her village, although the KLA made every effort to have them removed as well?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 23
Slobo: And do you know about the village of Meca, where the villagers were calling the army to come to free them from KLA pressures, since they were making them leave and go to Albania? Do you know of that example?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 24
Slobo: You know about the village of Batusa, two kilometres away from town and also the village of Borovina that the terrorists expelled the entire village to the town of Djakovica and that the villagers returned to the village only when the army drove away the terrorists?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 25
Slobo:And do you know about the village of Junik where the terrorists, when they had to withdraw before the army, they took along with them 700women and children to act as a human shield, a human shield for them until they got to the border? When they reached the border, they let them goback to Junik.
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 26
Slobo: And do you know the following: that 18.000 persons left Djakovica and went to Albania , whereas the population of Djakovica, the municipality of Djakovica, is 110.000, whereas the population of the town of Djakovica is 70.000?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 27
Slobo: And do you know of the village of Lukbunar, where the KLA forced the entire village to go to Albania and then the army returned them? Allthe way from Vrbnica, they returned them to the village, and when they got back to the village, the village was intact, nothing had been touched inthe village. Do you know of that incident?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 28
Slobo:Does the witness know that at the beginning of April, in the village of Glodjane, the KLA detained 21 Serbs and two Romany, that theytortured them and then they took them to the village of Donji Ratis and executed them by Lake Radonish? They were discovered 15 days later, buried by the Orthodox cemetery. There were children killed there. Babies were found there with bottles. 21 Serbs and two Romanies first tortured and taken to the village of Donji Ratis and then killed, executed in the canal by Lake Radonish. Do you know of that incident, at least?
Witness doesn't know
Mr Amnesia 29 and at this point the ref stops the fight. Bloke In The Bar put up a good showing but the Mr Amnesia avalanche was just too much. Back to you in the studio
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Holmes: Bear in mind that this guy was a municipal judge. And he's pretending to be a thick as pig shit here on local matters. It beggars belief.
Kosovo Albanians and Jobs
Remember that a key point of the ICTY's case against Slobo is that the Kosovo Albanians were discrimminated against. Give Slobo 5 minutes and he destroys that. Go get 'em Slobo
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Slobo:The Emin Duraku company, a cotton mill which had 6.800 workers, 120 Serbs, the director was an Albanian; is that correct?
Witness admits it
Slobo: And the Metaliku company with 800 employees, only 10 of them Serbs, the director once again an Albanian?
Witness denys it
Slobo: Have you heard about the motor factory, 1.200 employees, only ten of them Serbs, and the director once again was an Albanian? Electrical motor factory.
Witness admits it
Slobo:Do you know about the model factory with 400 employees, several Serbs that you can count on the fingers of your hand, and the director once again an Albanian, producing carpentry-wear. Dolarija [phoen].
Witness denys it
Slobo: What about the Agimi slaughterhouse, 120 employees, 10 of them Serbs, the director once again an Albanian. Was that operational?
Witness denys it
Slobo: What about Tik Dukagjin, was that operation?
Judge wades in to save the witness and stops the witness from answering. Judge is upset
Slobo: How many Albanians were employed in the Municipal Assembly of Djakovica? Was the Municipal Assembly operating at all ? Is it correct that in the Municipal Assembly, that is to say in the municipal administration in Djakovica, there were 320 Albanians employed and 210 Serbs?
Witness didn't know the numbers
Slobo: What about the Isa Grezda Medical Centre in Djakovica? Was it working?
Witness agrees
Slobo: Do you know that in this medical centre, Isa Grezda, there were 780 employees and 740 of them were Albanians?
Witness didn't know it existed
Slobo: And do you know that the heating plant worked in town? Not a single Serb was employed at the heating plant, only Albanians.
Witness: That I don't know.
Slobo: You don't know about that either. And do you know about the Agimi Trading Company, that is to say, the one that had retail shops?
Judge is getting very upset and stops Slobo from asking anymore questions along this line
Slobo: I am talking about your assertion that Albanians were discriminated against, and I presented a series of companies here where it is quite obvious that 99 per cent or 95 per cent of all employees were lbanians and all the managers of these companies were Albanians. So your assertion now is that all of this is not true.
Witness doesn't answer and so talks about something else
Slobo: All right. Are you aware, for example, that the bank Investbanka in Djakovica had -- all its employees were Albanians and an Albanian manager? Was that bank working?
Witness doesn't know
SLobo: You don't know about that? Do you know that in the territory of the municipality of Djakovica, in the local police, there were 68 Albanians who were employed there at the very outset, at the very beginning of the war?
Witness doesn't know
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Watson: Bloody 'ell, now that's what I call a cross examination. So are you telling me that
- He claimed that Serbs got preferential treatment when they wanted to start up a business but when asked to give a single example, he couldn't
- He was unaware that all the employees of the local main bank were Kosovo Albanian
- As with the heating plant. Not a single Serb was employed there.
- Nearly all the employees in the medical centre were Kosovo Albanian
- A similar situation with the slaughterhouse in his hometown and
- The car engine factory
- The large carpentry factory
- The cottton mill which employed over 6,000 people. Only a couple of 100 were Serbs
- He was also completely unaware of the numerous terror activities of the KLA even though he was a municipal judge and the town was small. About 70,000 inhabitants.
- He was also unaware that not a single catholic Kosovo Albanian village supported the KLA despite continuous threats from the terror group.
- He wasn't forced to go to Albania, he chose to go
- He claimed that the Serb soldiers treated him "brutally" but when pressed was forced to admit that all they were guilty of was rude words and throwing his ID on the ground.
- He made the slightly silly claim that NATO only hit military targets even though almost 1,000 targets were hit by NATO.
- He was forced to admit that, under Belgrade rule, municipalities that had a large minority could adopt that minorities language as an official language along with Serbian
- With regards to the selling of property, He also admitted that the Serbs were treated just like the Kosovo Albanians
- He didn't deny the fact that in that one municipality there were almost 9,000 Kosovo Albanian run businesses
- His testimony was riddled with hearsay evidence. Wholly unacceptable.
- He had nothing but kind words to say about the KLA, though they have links to Al Qaeda and control the heroin industry in Europe.
Holmes and Watson: ARF!!!!
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