Watson:I say Holmes, the thirteenth witness against that naughty beast, Mr Slobo, got rave reviews in the MSM didn't he.
Holmes: He certainly did. He was born on the 14th of November, 1952 , married and with four children: two sons and two daughters.He used to be a primary school teacher but changed jobs . He's a muslim Kosovo Albanian . His village is Zegra which is in Gnjilane municipality and about 12 kilometres away from Gnjilane.He said his village of about 4,000 inhabitants were mostly ethnic Albaniana with a small number of Serbs . He claimed , rather bizarrely , that the Serbs marked their houses with white cloth?
Watson: The reason being?
Holmes: The reason escapes me, plus why the court should be interested in white cloth for the uses of. Ah well. He claimed the there were Yugo soldiers in the area.
Watson: Those beastily Yugoslav soldiers. How dare they be in their own country......( shakes fist in direction of Serbia )......grrrrrrrrrr
Holmes: Oh this is funny . Okay , he's asked
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Question: I think you said about ten days before March 24th. You were telling us about seeing the arrival of some military forces. Can you pick it up there and tell us what you saw ?
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Watson: Okay, that's a very simple question.
Holmes: Yes, it is. A very simple, direct question. What does the genius in the witness box say?
Watson: Erm........
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Witness: During the time that talks were being held in Rambouillet, which did not have any marked effect, political effect, Serbia was preparing for its certain goal, Yugoslavia too, headed by the accused.
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Watson: ARF
Holmes: Finally he gives an answer
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Witness: In our village came military forces of the regular army and the reservists, people of an older age but in uniforms, equipped with all the necessary arsenal - tanks, cannons, armoured cars - and other military equipment: mortars, machine-guns, and other weapons. They were deployed in the agriculture cooperative of our village at the entrance to the village, and part of the army was displaced at the exit of the village, in the south of the village, and occupied the house of Dermush Sejdiu. Over 90 people were stationed there, whereas the others used to patrol the streets of the village.........During their stay there, they used to patrol the streets and check the citizens. They checked the citizens, observing what each and every one were doing, who was coming and going where, checking their personal IDs and documents, until the moment when the bombing by NATO started.
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Watson: So?
Holmes: So, indeed. Big deal. Now, the witness really starts to lose it. He starts giving the most silly of answers to perfectly ordinary, clear questions
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Question: Now, sir, you mentioned the 24th of March, 1999, and I think you told us that that was the date when NATO bombing started. Do you recall that incident?
Witness: Yes, I remember this day, which for the Albanian people of Kosovo was a day when our hopes came true, and we hoped that we would be freed from Serbian and Slavic rule that had been imposed on Kosovo.
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Watson: Arrf....
Holmes: Hold your guffaws my friendly GP, I'm not finished.
Watson: ( Holds his guffaws )
Holmes: And
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Question: What happened in your village on this day?
Witness:On the 24th of March, when the NATO bombing started, the Albanian population was very cheerful, but the Serbian population were very angry, and this rage of theirs turned into retaliation against the Albanian population, and certain people had made certain preparations under directions from Belgrade.
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Watson: Can I stop holding my "guffaws" now, Holmes.
Holmes: You may.
Watson: Arf......That feels better.
Holmes: Right you are, Sir. Even judge May got involved with this .
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Judge: Let me tell you about the evidence, Mr. Shabani. What is most helpful to us, if you tell us what you saw and heard yourself rather than giving a commentary upon it. Could you just stick to what you saw and heard, please.
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Holmes: But, alas, to no avail, the silliness continues
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Slobo: Well, sir, let me just direct your mind to a particular incident, if I may. You've told us earlier that soldiers were in the radiator factory. Did they stay there or did they go somewhere else in the village? And in the process, what happened?
Witness: The soldiers at this time, the regular army - that is, on the 24th of March - took up a position in trenches in order to defend themselves against NATO forces, and they expelled the inhabitants of four Albanian houses so that they could leave the radiator factory and move into the houses of these Albanians, houses which were near the agricultural cooperative. Meanwhile, other --
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Holmes: Now it's the turn of the prosecution themselves to try and reign in the lad.
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Question: No. Let me just ask some questions that I want to ask you, sir. We'll get along better if you listen to my question and answer that question rather than volunteering where you think we're going to go next, okay?
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Watson: ARF..... Priceless.
Holmes: He claimed that NATO didn't bomb the village, nor that the KLA were operating in the village ( 1526 ). A couple of days later , the muslims couldn't celebrate a festival, "bajram", because of the situation , and added
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Witness: We heard a hail of gunfire and volleys lasting for about an hour, coming from the direction of the village of Pasjan, which is a Serbian village and where there were also soldiers and reservists. They shot at the village of Vlastica in the evening.
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Watson: So he heard some firing in the middle of a huge anti terror operation and with NATO bombing every school and hospital they could. WOW!!!!!
Holmes: The next day the witness saw something. Correction. The witness was told it by........you guessed it........."the bloke in the bar"
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Witness: On the 29th of March, in Zheger, additional troops came, paramilitaries, with eight buses and a minibus, with a licence plate from Nis. According to eyewitnesses who saw this -- because the position of my house was far from the point where the buses arrived, so I didn't see it, but other villagers have told me that eight buses and a minibus from Nis came to Zheger and went to the village school.
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Watson: Silly Billy.
Holmes: Oh , and the guy loves to.........erm.........let's say , stretch the truth somewhat.
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Question: What happened next?
Witness: Then, in the evening, that is, towards 6.00, the Serbian inhabitants of Zheger had prepared a plan to liquidate people.
Question: Sir, unless you know about this yourself -- I'm not asking you to give us a commentary on who planned what. I want you to tell us who did what.
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Holmes: See?
Watson: Aaaaaah!!! Even the prosecution counsel know it for what it is. Crap
The witness then claims that a couple of ethnic Albanians were murdered and then........
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Witness: ........and that was when the Albanian residents began to shed their blood, and they were defenceless and unarmed in their own homes. And on that night, on that terrible night, the residents of the houses round about, when they heard the gunfire, some of them fled from their houses, going from yard to yard, out of fear, lest they encounter Serbian forces who were ready to fire on anybody that they saw. So a number of Albanian villagers, on that night of the 29th of March, spent the night in the hill called Kushlevica, to shelter from the Serbian army that had begun their operation to expel the population. I was among them with my family, and we all spent the night up there.........
Question: All right.
Witness:........In the morning........
Question: No........Let's back up.
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Watson: The guys on a roll . A roll of silliness.
Holmes: He says that about 1,200 people went to the hill ( 1530 ) He says the daughter of the dead guy was shot in the foot.
Watson: How?
Holmes: When asked how, he explains thusly
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Witness: In the murder of Shyqeri Tahiri, this crime was committed with the use of automatic weapons, and his daughter was also wounded with an automatic weapon. And besides this, they fired in the air to scare the Albanian population and to drive them out of the village.
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Watson: So they shot a girl in the foot by firing in the air?
Holmes: Possible, I suppose. Possible, but silly. Even the judge is getting irked by the our irk inducing hero, the witness.
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Witness: On the next morning, on the 30th of March, a day that the Albanian people cannot forget because innocent victims also died on this day at the hands of Serbian forces........
Judge: Just tell us what happened, PLEASE
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Watson: Arf!!!!!
Holmes: He said the Serbs killed some people and told everyone to leave.
Watson: Did he see the incident?
Holmes: Course not , it's........wait for it.........THE BLOKE IN THE BAR TOLD ME.
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Witness: We found out from villagers who had houses close to Ukshin Ukshini's house and were expelled in our direction
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Watson: Arrrrf!!!!!
Holmes: He stayed in the new village - Donja Stubla - of till May. He said that on the 43th of May he and other people who were displaced in the village decided to move on , to Macedonia .
Note the Serbs didn't expell the people
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Witness: This is why WE decided, as a group of about 600 people, to leave that place and head towards the border with Macedonia.
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Holmes: Now listen to some over wrought, purely emotional, bombastic language.
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Witness: Our group, which was heading towards Macedonia, when it arrived in Rustaje neighbourhood, we encountered Serb forces, military and paramilitary forces. We were surrounded by them. Then, under the threats and after they ransacked and searched us, we felt very tense and insecure. During this time, men were separated. Men beginning from 16 years of age up to 60 years of age were separated from the women and children. They took us away about 500 metres from the group and ordered us to kneel down and keep our hands above our heads. We were surrounded by the Serbian forces, among whom there were also paramilitaries who were always under the influence of drugs, and so their behaviour was very severe towards us. While we were there and being threatened with being killed, we suddenly heard the shouts and shrieks of our women and children who were present there. And when it became a very alarming situation, some of the military ordered us to get up, and at that moment the women and the children who were crying, shouting, they started to come towards us, to join us as a group.
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Watson: WOW!!!! Sounds devastating. The poor man.
Holmes: But, if you really listen what happened was, basically, the men were separated for a time, and then reunited and allowed to move on.
Watson: Big deal.
Holmes: He went to Macedonia, and then returned to his village.
Watson: How was his performance under cross examination?
Holmes: He's poor even by the previous witnesses testimony. Now remember that the village was largely ethnic Albanian? Well , it had all the mod cons. So much for the Kosovo Albanians being maltreated, second class citizens
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Slobo:According to the information that I have, the village of Zegra was a rather highly developed village. There was a factory there, Jugoterm, where Serbs and Albanians worked, and also the agricultural combine Mladost, and there were paved roads, and there was electricity, running water, et cetera.
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Holmes: He didn't deny any of this either. He admitted that many of the doctors , etc were ethnic Albanian
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Slobo: All right. At the medical centre in Gnjilane, there were 370 Albanian employees; is that correct? Witness: In the medical centre of the hospital of Gjilan, before the NATO bombing, there were also Albanian doctors. But after the beginning of the NATO bombing, the Albanian personnel left the hospital, and that was under the orders of the Serb officials who were in charge there.
Slobo: Is it correct that there were 370 Albanian employees at the medical centre in Gnjilane?
Witness: That was the situation before the war. Yes, there were.
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Also
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Slobo: All right. Also, the technical school in Gnjilane was attended by 405 Albanians.........for Albanian children, schooling was in the Albanian language, and for Serb children, in the Serb language; is that correct?
Witness: Yes, that's correct
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Watson: Arrrf!!!! He almost sounds like a witness for the prosecution.
Holmes: He was forced to admit that he could teach in Albanian and that his primary school had a huge number of kosovo Albanains in it.
Watson: So much for this apartheid crap
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Slobo: In Zegra, in your village, there were 758 pupils, 79 Serb pupils. Is that correct?
Witness denies it
Slobo: How many Albanian pupils were there at the school in Zegra?
Witness: The number of the Albanian -- the number of students in the Zheger school was about 900, and as for the Serb students, they were a small umber, about 30, 20 to 30, because the Serbian population in the village was very small. There were a few kids there. The number of Serb students between the first and the fourth grade of the elementary schools was small, and they took part in combined classes. So there were students who were -- teachers who were conducting teaching of students in two levels.
Slobo: Seven hundred fifty-eight students plus 79 students gives a total of about 900, as you have just said.
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Watson: What a sorry prosecution this has turned out to be.
Holmes: It's the very same crappo-fest basically
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Slobo: Do you know anything about the mobilisation that was proclaimed by the KLA in March 1999?
Witness: Regarding the mobilisation, I have heard through the radio and television nothing more about that.
Slobo: And are you aware that in Zegra, in the village of Lashtica, in the immediate vicinity, the police seized 150 automatic rifles, 80 short guns, Scorpions, pistols, Hecklers, 7 sniper rifles, and that there were 7 sniper positions in the territory of Zegra? Do you know about all of this?
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Watson: Hmmmmmmmm. Interesting. The whole area was a KLA strongpoint.
Holmes: The police officer of the witness's village suffered a rather nasty fate. Also the policeman's family too
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Slobo: All right. What about the police station in Zegra? Sadih Sofi worked there, a policeman, an Albanian. He lived in a state-owned apartment with his wife and three children. The KLA stormed his apartment, beat him up, raped his wife and beat up his children. Do you know of that event?
Witness: I don't know that the personality Sofi, as you say, he was beaten by the police. He was in the service of the Serbian police, but after that, the police were no longer there. I know that he went to Gjilan, but I don't know anything about his whereabouts after that, after he was -- if he was beaten by the KLA or other things. I don't know anything.
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Watson: That's not believeable. We're talking about a small village , the police officer and his family are brutally beaten - and raped - and the witness doesn't have a clue. Hmmmmmmm. Just how believable is that?
Holmes: Well said, Mr GP. And note that the victim was a loyalist Kosovo Albanian. They were wiped out by the KLA.
Watson: With their entire families too.
Holmes: He changed his testimony from yesterday. He'd previously talked of an incident happening 10 days before NATO bombing, and on this occasion it changed. Doubled in fact. To 20 days ( 1554 )
Watson: What a surprise. A ICTY prosecution witness against Slobob either lying or being confused. Or both.
Holmes: Slobo starts to ridicule the witness's nonsense. This bit is funny
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Slobo: All right. We'll come back to that. You spoke about that yesterday. You said that when the bombing started, as you said, the Serb forces became even more furious and wild. How did you come to that conclusion that they became more furious and wild? Did they froth at the mouth or what manner of -- what way did this wildness manifest itself?
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And then added
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Slobo: All right. Yesterday, throughout your testimony, you did not demonstrate to us that anything happened to anybody. You said you yourself went to Macedonia, and we'll get to that in just a moment. So how did they manifest this behaviour of theirs? How did they go wild?
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Slobo spotted some more "the bloke in the bar told me so it must be true" nonsense
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Slobo: You spoke about the event that took place on the 29th of March and the arrival of some sort of paramilitary, and then you went on to say that you had heard about that. The Prosecutor asked you what their uniform looked like, and you said you didn't see anything. You said that your house was a long way off. So, in fact, you yourself did not see them. You just heard about them; is that right?
Witness: Yes
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A wonderful bit of Slobo pummelling the goon on the ropes .
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Slobo: As far as the readiness to commit murders, you said yourself here that the Serb population was preparing to liquidate the Albanians, and you were talking about the time at the beginning of the aggression. Were you yourself liquidated? Did they liquidate you?
Witness: I already told you that I myself did not, but they fired at me when I was going away, when I was leaving, along with the other civilian population.
Slobo: Did they hit anybody?
Witness: Yes, they did. They hit and injured other people who were in the convoy. We have two cases, a male and a female, who were injured.
Slobo: So in the convoy, two people were wounded out of all that shooting that went on. Now, you said that they were preparing to liquidate you. What, in your opinion, prevented them from liquidating you?
Witness: I don't know what aims they had at that moment, but I know that they wanted to kill some and to deport the others. That was the main goal of theirs. And this came true in the case of our village, I have to say.
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Watson: Let's do a quick summary. From a convoy of about 1,200 people , two are wounded . And we don't even know why/how/by whom.
Holmes: Nice summary.
Watson: So much for the liquidation plan. Funnily, Slobo asked the witness about the 2 dead
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Slobo: And who killed Tahir Tahiri?
Witness: I don't know that. I think you may know better than me.
Slobo: You claim -- you're claiming here -- that is to say, you're testifying here about everything that you heard about but didn't see, so that's why I'm asking you. Who killed Tahir Tahiri, who you say was killed?
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About the other dead guy ?
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Slobo: That's what you say, and when they heard your testimony, I was given information that it was from the roof of that house that Ukshin Ukshini had shot at the army, and it is correct that it took place two or three days after the NATO aggression, and it is true that it took place during the NATO attack, and it is true that he shot at the army, and it is true that he died shooting at the army. Are you aware of that? Do you have that knowledge?
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The witness disagrees, so Slobo asks
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Slobo: Did you see it happen?
Witness: I have heard this from other eyewitnesses who were close by him.
Slobo: All right. Once again, you don't know how he died, but you heard about it. Very well.
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Watson: What a sorry individual he is.
Holmes: Right you are Doctor. Now read this section. It's the witness explaining what the Serb officers told him and the Kosovo Albanians where to go. Now if you'd been reading the CNN, BBC crap, you'd immediately think they ordered him to leave Yugoslavia. Maybe ordered to go to Macedonia or perhaps Albania.
Watson: That's right. For night after night I saw MSM reporters informing us that the evil Serbs were forcing all 200 trillion Kosovo Albanians to leave Kosovo. Foever.......Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!.......( shakes fist at Serb, accidentally hitting himself in head )......ouch!!
Holmes: But no. The witness admits he was told to head DEEPER into Serbia. Into Presevo, to be exact
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Slobo: Then, after that, as you had said, they let you go on and they told you to go to Presevo; is that right?
Witness: Yes. I said that we were ordered to go in the direction of Presheva,but we didn't know what was waiting for us there, because there were other Serb forces there. And on the way, we deviated from that direction, and I've stated that earlier.
Slobo: We heard that yesterday. We heard that yesterday. As you know, everybody -- perhaps those who are following this do not know this, but Presevo is outside the territory of Kosovo. It is in Serbia. Presevo is not in Macedonia. So you were directed to Presevo, but you managed to sneak away, through certain paths that some people knew, and somehow managed to get to the border; is that right?
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Watson: Arrff!!
Holmes: So much for the Serbs trying to expel the Kosovo Albanians. The witness's testimony is by now just a pile of rags. Slobo closes in for the kill.
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Slobo: Yes. And over there you passed soldiers. Nobody touched you. You said that yourself. You also said that in your written statement, and you said that during your testimony. Nobody asked you for documents, nobody took away your documents; is that right?
Witness: We were not stripped of our documents, but we were mistreated, and the humiliating comments that we heard from them. Every moment they were saying, "We will kill you." They were all obvious, all too obvious.
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Watson: So that's it? No one touched them? But on the other hand, rude words were directed in their general direction?
Holmes: That's it, folks.
Watson: Less than terrible, if I may say so.
Holmes: You may. Oh, Slobo raises a very good point
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Slobo: The question is why, therefore, those who crossed the Albanian border say that their documents were taken away from them and those who crossed the Macedonian or Montenegrin borders claim that their documents were not taken away? Is it perhaps because the Macedonians and the Montenegrins are not going to lie on their behalf?
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Watson: Good point Slobo
Holmes: And finally
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Slobo: All right. We've already heard about this pattern. It's getting to be boring and it's hearsay anyway. In your written statement and later on, you said something to that effect while you were being questioned here, you said that the army shot at a person called Avni, that they killed him. As a matter of fact, you said that they massacred him. And the truth is quite different. This person was retarded. His father stated that they had left him behind, tied up, because he was mentally retarded. The army found him dead and brought him there, and that's when the authorities got this statement from the father, that this is a young man who was mentally retarded, whom they had tied up themselves so that he would not create problems for them. Do you know about that?
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Watson: The charming villagers tied up the mentally handicapped kid to a tree. Luvurley people. Lovely, lovely, lovely.
Holmes: The father had admitted to doing it too.
Watson: What was the witness's reaction?
Holmes: Now the witness is completely stumped by this. So he tries to lie his way out of it. Yet he's a bit dim. A bit slow. Way too slow for Slobo of course.
Watson: Don't tell me. Slobo nails him.
Holmes: Yup. Slobo nails him. Not in the same way the Kosovo Albanians nailed handicapped kids to trees. Slobo nails the witness.
Watson: Metaphorically of course.
Holmes: Of course. The witness at first claimed the Serbs killed the kid on the 6th of July - then changed it to the 6th of June - so Slobo points out the witness was in Macedonia at the time. Even people with good eyesight would have difficulty seeing hundreds of kilometres away
So Slobo points out that the witness had claimed something completely differently in writing
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Slobo: All right. All right. You were not in Zegra. Now I'm going to read out to you what you said in your written statement about that killing. This is what your written statement says, the one that you gave:
"A few days before the airstrikes began, a man from the village, Avni - I don't know his last name - was going to his home, which was behind my house, a bit further up on the hill. It was evening. Three or four policemen whom I knew were in the field. They were about 400 metres away from him. One of them was called Jova, but I don't know his last name. Another one was called Dragan, but I don't know his last name either. And I did not know the rest. The two I have named were from Zegra. They were shooting from a distance at Avni, and then they walked up and massacred his body, although I don't know why they did that. After killing him, they mutilated the body and carried it away."
And so on and so forth, not to take up any more time by reading this. So you wrote something that was completely to the contrary of what you've said over here.
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Watson: So he lied and lied and lied and lied?
Holmes: Yup.
Watson: That's rather naughty of him. I expect his Mummy will make him go to bed early. With no Ovaltine too.
Holmes: One would presume so. Anyway, the guy was probably the worst witness ever.
To round up, Slobo asked the witness about the numerous Loyallist Albanians, Serbs etc who were murdered by the KLA. It seems that our intrepid witness had close links with the KLA . Slobo had previously claimed the witness - and his family - raised money for the KLA which the witness denied. Later , however........
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Slobo: So you consider that the KLA is not a terrorist organisation and is not an extremist organisation, as far as I am able to understand your answer. Am I wrong in thinking that or not?
Witness: In my view, the KLA is not a terrorist organisation but an organisation that stood up in defence of the people and fought the Serb terror and atrocities perpetrated against the Albanian population of Kosovo.
Slobo:If they fought against Serb terror, why, then, did they kill so many Albanians? What do you have to say about that? What is your opinion?
Witness: If they have killed some Albanians who have been involved and cooperated with the Serb forces, that is, traitors to the nation, they may have done such a thing.
Slobo: So several hundred Albanians were traitors of the nation; is that what you're saying?
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Watson: My!!!! He's supporting the brutal murder of people just because they got their pay check from Belgrade?
Holmes: Yup. Well said. He thought that loyalist Albanians who worked as forest rangers, police, etc were traitors who deserved what they got.
Watson: And their families too. OOOOOOOOH!!!!!! What a nice man.
Holmes: In addition, it seems that our witness had an interesting view of Slav people.
Watson: In what way?
Holmes: He hates them
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Slobo: All right. You said that the Albanian population was cheerful when the bombing started, and these are your words. You said that, for you, it meant the end of Serb rule and the Slav peoples. That's what you said. "The end of Serb and Slavic rule."........I am asking you about what you yourself said. "The end of the rule of Slav peoples, Slav nations." Are you a racist?........
Well, you won't be able to imagine it without the presence of Serb elements. You needn't worry about that. But you said, "the end of Slav peoples, Slav nations." What have you got against the Slav nations, the Slav people?
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Watson: Ooooooooooh! What a charmer.
So, are you telling me that
- His display was so inept, even the judge had to intervene
- In fact, his display was so inept, even the prosecution had to have a wee chat with the lad
- Before NATO started bombing, he admitted the Serb soldiers behaved well.
- He claimed the local Serbs had planned to "lquidate" the Kosovo Albanian population. A claim which the prosecution refused to touch, it was so ridiculous.
- The Serbs didn't tell him to leave, he was told by someone who said they'd heard it from the Serbs. Hearsay.
- As was his many accounts of supposed Serb brutality.
- His village had all the amenities of any modern Western village. A factory, running water, electricity, etc.
- Many of the doctors in the area were Kosovo Albanian too
- In his village, over 700 Kosovo Albanians were educated in the State system. He admitted this
- The whole area was a KLA stronghold. Something the witness professed ignorance about
- He claimed that the Serbs tried to "liquidate" the convoy, but was at a loss to explain how only two people were wounded.
- He has no idea how Tahir Tahiri died. None. It was hearsay
- The Serb forces actually wanted him to head deeper in Serbia.
- Slobo makes the good point that Kosovo Albanian witnesses who went to Albania claim they had to hand over their IDs. However, those who went to Macedonia, Montenegro or deeper into Serbia didn't claim this. Is this because the Albanian guards would more likely go along with this silly story?
- The worst thing that happened to the convoy was some Serb soldiers said rude words to them
- He thought nothing wrong with Kosovo Albanians who worked as policemen, etc, being murdered. Along with their entire families.
- He'd claimed that the Serb forces murdered a boy. However, Slobo points out that in fact the Kosovo Albanians tied the retarded boy to a tree, then left him there. To die. Which he did.
- The witness's account varied enourmously with his written statements
- He showed a hatred for all Slavs.
Holmes: Yup. Slobo kicks seven shades of crap out of another witness. Slobo wins charm lessons from Cary Grant: the ICTY? Charm lessons from The Donald.
Holmes and Watson: Arrrfffff!!!!!
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