End of Rule for Slav People

"END OF RULE FOR SLAV PEOPLE"

WITNESS 13: Qamil Shabani

Testimony begins on page 1512

Slobo's cross begins the next day, page 1542

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Watson:I say Holmes, the thirteenth witness against that naughty beast, Mr Slobo, got rave reviews in the MSM didn't he.

Holmes: He certainly did. He was born on the 14th of November, 1952 , married and with four children: two sons and two daughters.He used to be a primary school teacher but changed jobs . He's a muslim Kosovo Albanian . His village is Zegra which is in Gnjilane municipality and about 12 kilometres away from Gnjilane.He said his village of about 4,000 inhabitants were mostly ethnic Albaniana with a small number of Serbs . He claimed , rather bizarrely , that the Serbs marked their houses with white cloth?

Watson: The reason being?

Holmes: The reason escapes me, plus why the court should be interested in white cloth for the uses of. Ah well. He claimed the there were Yugo soldiers in the area.

Watson: Those beastily Yugoslav soldiers. How dare they be in their own country......( shakes fist in direction of Serbia )......grrrrrrrrrr

Holmes: Oh this is funny . Okay , he's asked

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Question: I think you said about ten days before March 24th. You were telling us about seeing the arrival of some military forces. Can you pick it up there and tell us what you saw ?

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Watson: Okay, that's a very simple question.

Holmes: Yes, it is. A very simple, direct question. What does the genius in the witness box say?

Watson: Erm........

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Witness: During the time that talks were being held in Rambouillet, which did not have any marked effect, political effect, Serbia was preparing for its certain goal, Yugoslavia too, headed by the accused.

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Watson: ARF

Holmes: Finally he gives an answer

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Witness: In our village came military forces of the regular army and the reservists, people of an older age but in uniforms, equipped with all the necessary arsenal - tanks, cannons, armoured cars - and other military equipment: mortars, machine-guns, and other weapons. They were deployed in the agriculture cooperative of our village at the entrance to the village, and part of the army was displaced at the exit of the village, in the south of the village, and occupied the house of Dermush Sejdiu. Over 90 people were stationed there, whereas the others used to patrol the streets of the village.........During their stay there, they used to patrol the streets and check the citizens. They checked the citizens, observing what each and every one were doing, who was coming and going where, checking their personal IDs and documents, until the moment when the bombing by NATO started.

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Watson: So?

Holmes: So, indeed. Big deal. Now, the witness really starts to lose it. He starts giving the most silly of answers to perfectly ordinary, clear questions

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Question: Now, sir, you mentioned the 24th of March, 1999, and I think you told us that that was the date when NATO bombing started. Do you recall that incident?

Witness: Yes, I remember this day, which for the Albanian people of Kosovo was a day when our hopes came true, and we hoped that we would be freed from Serbian and Slavic rule that had been imposed on Kosovo.

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Watson: Arrf....

Holmes: Hold your guffaws my friendly GP, I'm not finished.

Watson: ( Holds his guffaws )

Holmes: And

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Question: What happened in your village on this day?

Witness:On the 24th of March, when the NATO bombing started, the Albanian population was very cheerful, but the Serbian population were very angry, and this rage of theirs turned into retaliation against the Albanian population, and certain people had made certain preparations under directions from Belgrade.

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Watson: Can I stop holding my "guffaws" now, Holmes.

Holmes: You may.

Watson: Arf......That feels better.

Holmes: Right you are, Sir. Even judge May got involved with this .

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Judge: Let me tell you about the evidence, Mr. Shabani. What is most helpful to us, if you tell us what you saw and heard yourself rather than giving a commentary upon it. Could you just stick to what you saw and heard, please.

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Holmes: But, alas, to no avail, the silliness continues

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Slobo: Well, sir, let me just direct your mind to a particular incident, if I may. You've told us earlier that soldiers were in the radiator factory. Did they stay there or did they go somewhere else in the village? And in the process, what happened?

Witness: The soldiers at this time, the regular army - that is, on the 24th of March - took up a position in trenches in order to defend themselves against NATO forces, and they expelled the inhabitants of four Albanian houses so that they could leave the radiator factory and move into the houses of these Albanians, houses which were near the agricultural cooperative. Meanwhile, other --

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Holmes: Now it's the turn of the prosecution themselves to try and reign in the lad.

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Question: No. Let me just ask some questions that I want to ask you, sir. We'll get along better if you listen to my question and answer that question rather than volunteering where you think we're going to go next, okay?

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Watson: ARF..... Priceless.

Holmes: He claimed that NATO didn't bomb the village, nor that the KLA were operating in the village ( 1526 ). A couple of days later , the muslims couldn't celebrate a festival, "bajram", because of the situation , and added

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Witness: We heard a hail of gunfire and volleys lasting for about an hour, coming from the direction of the village of Pasjan, which is a Serbian village and where there were also soldiers and reservists. They shot at the village of Vlastica in the evening.

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Watson: So he heard some firing in the middle of a huge anti terror operation and with NATO bombing every school and hospital they could. WOW!!!!!

Holmes: The next day the witness saw something. Correction. The witness was told it by........you guessed it........."the bloke in the bar"

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Witness: On the 29th of March, in Zheger, additional troops came, paramilitaries, with eight buses and a minibus, with a licence plate from Nis. According to eyewitnesses who saw this -- because the position of my house was far from the point where the buses arrived, so I didn't see it, but other villagers have told me that eight buses and a minibus from Nis came to Zheger and went to the village school.

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Watson: Silly Billy.

Holmes: Oh , and the guy loves to.........erm.........let's say , stretch the truth somewhat.

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Question: What happened next?

Witness: Then, in the evening, that is, towards 6.00, the Serbian inhabitants of Zheger had prepared a plan to liquidate people.

Question: Sir, unless you know about this yourself -- I'm not asking you to give us a commentary on who planned what. I want you to tell us who did what.

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Holmes: See?

Watson: Aaaaaah!!! Even the prosecution counsel know it for what it is. Crap
The witness then claims that a couple of ethnic Albanians were murdered and then........

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Witness: ........and that was when the Albanian residents began to shed their blood, and they were defenceless and unarmed in their own homes. And on that night, on that terrible night, the residents of the houses round about, when they heard the gunfire, some of them fled from their houses, going from yard to yard, out of fear, lest they encounter Serbian forces who were ready to fire on anybody that they saw. So a number of Albanian villagers, on that night of the 29th of March, spent the night in the hill called Kushlevica, to shelter from the Serbian army that had begun their operation to expel the population. I was among them with my family, and we all spent the night up there.........

Question: All right.

Witness:........In the morning........

Question: No........Let's back up.

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Watson: The guys on a roll . A roll of silliness.

Holmes: He says that about 1,200 people went to the hill ( 1530 ) He says the daughter of the dead guy was shot in the foot.

Watson: How?

Holmes: When asked how, he explains thusly

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Witness: In the murder of Shyqeri Tahiri, this crime was committed with the use of automatic weapons, and his daughter was also wounded with an automatic weapon. And besides this, they fired in the air to scare the Albanian population and to drive them out of the village.

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Watson: So they shot a girl in the foot by firing in the air?

Holmes: Possible, I suppose. Possible, but silly. Even the judge is getting irked by the our irk inducing hero, the witness.

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Witness: On the next morning, on the 30th of March, a day that the Albanian people cannot forget because innocent victims also died on this day at the hands of Serbian forces........

Judge: Just tell us what happened, PLEASE

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Watson: Arf!!!!!

Holmes: He said the Serbs killed some people and told everyone to leave.

Watson: Did he see the incident?

Holmes: Course not , it's........wait for it.........THE BLOKE IN THE BAR TOLD ME.

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Witness: We found out from villagers who had houses close to Ukshin Ukshini's house and were expelled in our direction

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Watson: Arrrrf!!!!!

Holmes: He stayed in the new village - Donja Stubla - of till May. He said that on the 43th of May he and other people who were displaced in the village decided to move on , to Macedonia .
Note the Serbs didn't expell the people

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Witness: This is why WE decided, as a group of about 600 people, to leave that place and head towards the border with Macedonia.

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Holmes: Now listen to some over wrought, purely emotional, bombastic language.

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Witness: Our group, which was heading towards Macedonia, when it arrived in Rustaje neighbourhood, we encountered Serb forces, military and paramilitary forces. We were surrounded by them. Then, under the threats and after they ransacked and searched us, we felt very tense and insecure. During this time, men were separated. Men beginning from 16 years of age up to 60 years of age were separated from the women and children. They took us away about 500 metres from the group and ordered us to kneel down and keep our hands above our heads. We were surrounded by the Serbian forces, among whom there were also paramilitaries who were always under the influence of drugs, and so their behaviour was very severe towards us. While we were there and being threatened with being killed, we suddenly heard the shouts and shrieks of our women and children who were present there. And when it became a very alarming situation, some of the military ordered us to get up, and at that moment the women and the children who were crying, shouting, they started to come towards us, to join us as a group.

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Watson: WOW!!!! Sounds devastating. The poor man.

Holmes: But, if you really listen what happened was, basically, the men were separated for a time, and then reunited and allowed to move on.

Watson: Big deal.

Holmes: He went to Macedonia, and then returned to his village.

Watson: How was his performance under cross examination?

Holmes: He's poor even by the previous witnesses testimony. Now remember that the village was largely ethnic Albanian? Well , it had all the mod cons. So much for the Kosovo Albanians being maltreated, second class citizens

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Slobo:According to the information that I have, the village of Zegra was a rather highly developed village. There was a factory there, Jugoterm, where Serbs and Albanians worked, and also the agricultural combine Mladost, and there were paved roads, and there was electricity, running water, et cetera.

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Holmes: He didn't deny any of this either. He admitted that many of the doctors , etc were ethnic Albanian

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Slobo: All right. At the medical centre in Gnjilane, there were 370 Albanian employees; is that correct? Witness: In the medical centre of the hospital of Gjilan, before the NATO bombing, there were also Albanian doctors. But after the beginning of the NATO bombing, the Albanian personnel left the hospital, and that was under the orders of the Serb officials who were in charge there.

Slobo: Is it correct that there were 370 Albanian employees at the medical centre in Gnjilane?

Witness: That was the situation before the war. Yes, there were.

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Also

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Slobo: All right. Also, the technical school in Gnjilane was attended by 405 Albanians.........for Albanian children, schooling was in the Albanian language, and for Serb children, in the Serb language; is that correct?

Witness: Yes, that's correct

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Watson: Arrrf!!!! He almost sounds like a witness for the prosecution.

Holmes: He was forced to admit that he could teach in Albanian and that his primary school had a huge number of kosovo Albanains in it.

Watson: So much for this apartheid crap

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Slobo: In Zegra, in your village, there were 758 pupils, 79 Serb pupils. Is that correct?

Witness denies it

Slobo: How many Albanian pupils were there at the school in Zegra?

Witness: The number of the Albanian -- the number of students in the Zheger school was about 900, and as for the Serb students, they were a small umber, about 30, 20 to 30, because the Serbian population in the village was very small. There were a few kids there. The number of Serb students between the first and the fourth grade of the elementary schools was small, and they took part in combined classes. So there were students who were -- teachers who were conducting teaching of students in two levels.

Slobo: Seven hundred fifty-eight students plus 79 students gives a total of about 900, as you have just said.

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Watson: What a sorry prosecution this has turned out to be.

Holmes: It's the very same crappo-fest basically

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Slobo: Do you know anything about the mobilisation that was proclaimed by the KLA in March 1999?

Witness: Regarding the mobilisation, I have heard through the radio and television nothing more about that.

Slobo: And are you aware that in Zegra, in the village of Lashtica, in the immediate vicinity, the police seized 150 automatic rifles, 80 short guns, Scorpions, pistols, Hecklers, 7 sniper rifles, and that there were 7 sniper positions in the territory of Zegra? Do you know about all of this?

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Watson: Hmmmmmmmm. Interesting. The whole area was a KLA strongpoint.

Holmes: The police officer of the witness's village suffered a rather nasty fate. Also the policeman's family too

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Slobo: All right. What about the police station in Zegra? Sadih Sofi worked there, a policeman, an Albanian. He lived in a state-owned apartment with his wife and three children. The KLA stormed his apartment, beat him up, raped his wife and beat up his children. Do you know of that event?

Witness: I don't know that the personality Sofi, as you say, he was beaten by the police. He was in the service of the Serbian police, but after that, the police were no longer there. I know that he went to Gjilan, but I don't know anything about his whereabouts after that, after he was -- if he was beaten by the KLA or other things. I don't know anything.

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Watson: That's not believeable. We're talking about a small village , the police officer and his family are brutally beaten - and raped - and the witness doesn't have a clue. Hmmmmmmm. Just how believable is that?

Holmes: Well said, Mr GP. And note that the victim was a loyalist Kosovo Albanian. They were wiped out by the KLA.

Watson: With their entire families too.

Holmes: He changed his testimony from yesterday. He'd previously talked of an incident happening 10 days before NATO bombing, and on this occasion it changed. Doubled in fact. To 20 days ( 1554 )

Watson: What a surprise. A ICTY prosecution witness against Slobob either lying or being confused. Or both.

Holmes: Slobo starts to ridicule the witness's nonsense. This bit is funny

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Slobo: All right. We'll come back to that. You spoke about that yesterday. You said that when the bombing started, as you said, the Serb forces became even more furious and wild. How did you come to that conclusion that they became more furious and wild? Did they froth at the mouth or what manner of -- what way did this wildness manifest itself?

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And then added

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Slobo: All right. Yesterday, throughout your testimony, you did not demonstrate to us that anything happened to anybody. You said you yourself went to Macedonia, and we'll get to that in just a moment. So how did they manifest this behaviour of theirs? How did they go wild?

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Slobo spotted some more "the bloke in the bar told me so it must be true" nonsense

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Slobo: You spoke about the event that took place on the 29th of March and the arrival of some sort of paramilitary, and then you went on to say that you had heard about that. The Prosecutor asked you what their uniform looked like, and you said you didn't see anything. You said that your house was a long way off. So, in fact, you yourself did not see them. You just heard about them; is that right?

Witness: Yes

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A wonderful bit of Slobo pummelling the goon on the ropes .

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Slobo: As far as the readiness to commit murders, you said yourself here that the Serb population was preparing to liquidate the Albanians, and you were talking about the time at the beginning of the aggression. Were you yourself liquidated? Did they liquidate you?

Witness: I already told you that I myself did not, but they fired at me when I was going away, when I was leaving, along with the other civilian population.

Slobo: Did they hit anybody?

Witness: Yes, they did. They hit and injured other people who were in the convoy. We have two cases, a male and a female, who were injured.

Slobo: So in the convoy, two people were wounded out of all that shooting that went on. Now, you said that they were preparing to liquidate you. What, in your opinion, prevented them from liquidating you?

Witness: I don't know what aims they had at that moment, but I know that they wanted to kill some and to deport the others. That was the main goal of theirs. And this came true in the case of our village, I have to say.

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Watson: Let's do a quick summary. From a convoy of about 1,200 people , two are wounded . And we don't even know why/how/by whom.

Holmes: Nice summary.

Watson: So much for the liquidation plan. Funnily, Slobo asked the witness about the 2 dead

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Slobo: And who killed Tahir Tahiri?

Witness: I don't know that. I think you may know better than me.

Slobo: You claim -- you're claiming here -- that is to say, you're testifying here about everything that you heard about but didn't see, so that's why I'm asking you. Who killed Tahir Tahiri, who you say was killed?

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About the other dead guy ?

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Slobo: That's what you say, and when they heard your testimony, I was given information that it was from the roof of that house that Ukshin Ukshini had shot at the army, and it is correct that it took place two or three days after the NATO aggression, and it is true that it took place during the NATO attack, and it is true that he shot at the army, and it is true that he died shooting at the army. Are you aware of that? Do you have that knowledge?

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The witness disagrees, so Slobo asks

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Slobo: Did you see it happen?

Witness: I have heard this from other eyewitnesses who were close by him.

Slobo: All right. Once again, you don't know how he died, but you heard about it. Very well.

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Watson: What a sorry individual he is.

Holmes: Right you are Doctor. Now read this section. It's the witness explaining what the Serb officers told him and the Kosovo Albanians where to go. Now if you'd been reading the CNN, BBC crap, you'd immediately think they ordered him to leave Yugoslavia. Maybe ordered to go to Macedonia or perhaps Albania.

Watson: That's right. For night after night I saw MSM reporters informing us that the evil Serbs were forcing all 200 trillion Kosovo Albanians to leave Kosovo. Foever.......Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!.......( shakes fist at Serb, accidentally hitting himself in head )......ouch!!

Holmes: But no. The witness admits he was told to head DEEPER into Serbia. Into Presevo, to be exact

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Slobo: Then, after that, as you had said, they let you go on and they told you to go to Presevo; is that right?

Witness: Yes. I said that we were ordered to go in the direction of Presheva,but we didn't know what was waiting for us there, because there were other Serb forces there. And on the way, we deviated from that direction, and I've stated that earlier.

Slobo: We heard that yesterday. We heard that yesterday. As you know, everybody -- perhaps those who are following this do not know this, but Presevo is outside the territory of Kosovo. It is in Serbia. Presevo is not in Macedonia. So you were directed to Presevo, but you managed to sneak away, through certain paths that some people knew, and somehow managed to get to the border; is that right?

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Watson: Arrff!!

Holmes: So much for the Serbs trying to expel the Kosovo Albanians. The witness's testimony is by now just a pile of rags. Slobo closes in for the kill.

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Slobo: Yes. And over there you passed soldiers. Nobody touched you. You said that yourself. You also said that in your written statement, and you said that during your testimony. Nobody asked you for documents, nobody took away your documents; is that right?

Witness: We were not stripped of our documents, but we were mistreated, and the humiliating comments that we heard from them. Every moment they were saying, "We will kill you." They were all obvious, all too obvious.

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Watson: So that's it? No one touched them? But on the other hand, rude words were directed in their general direction?

Holmes: That's it, folks.

Watson: Less than terrible, if I may say so.

Holmes: You may. Oh, Slobo raises a very good point

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Slobo: The question is why, therefore, those who crossed the Albanian border say that their documents were taken away from them and those who crossed the Macedonian or Montenegrin borders claim that their documents were not taken away? Is it perhaps because the Macedonians and the Montenegrins are not going to lie on their behalf?

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Watson: Good point Slobo

Holmes: And finally

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Slobo: All right. We've already heard about this pattern. It's getting to be boring and it's hearsay anyway. In your written statement and later on, you said something to that effect while you were being questioned here, you said that the army shot at a person called Avni, that they killed him. As a matter of fact, you said that they massacred him. And the truth is quite different. This person was retarded. His father stated that they had left him behind, tied up, because he was mentally retarded. The army found him dead and brought him there, and that's when the authorities got this statement from the father, that this is a young man who was mentally retarded, whom they had tied up themselves so that he would not create problems for them. Do you know about that?

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Watson: The charming villagers tied up the mentally handicapped kid to a tree. Luvurley people. Lovely, lovely, lovely.

Holmes: The father had admitted to doing it too.

Watson: What was the witness's reaction?

Holmes: Now the witness is completely stumped by this. So he tries to lie his way out of it. Yet he's a bit dim. A bit slow. Way too slow for Slobo of course.

Watson: Don't tell me. Slobo nails him.

Holmes: Yup. Slobo nails him. Not in the same way the Kosovo Albanians nailed handicapped kids to trees. Slobo nails the witness.

Watson: Metaphorically of course.

Holmes: Of course. The witness at first claimed the Serbs killed the kid on the 6th of July - then changed it to the 6th of June - so Slobo points out the witness was in Macedonia at the time. Even people with good eyesight would have difficulty seeing hundreds of kilometres away
So Slobo points out that the witness had claimed something completely differently in writing

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Slobo: All right. All right. You were not in Zegra. Now I'm going to read out to you what you said in your written statement about that killing. This is what your written statement says, the one that you gave:

"A few days before the airstrikes began, a man from the village, Avni - I don't know his last name - was going to his home, which was behind my house, a bit further up on the hill. It was evening. Three or four policemen whom I knew were in the field. They were about 400 metres away from him. One of them was called Jova, but I don't know his last name. Another one was called Dragan, but I don't know his last name either. And I did not know the rest. The two I have named were from Zegra. They were shooting from a distance at Avni, and then they walked up and massacred his body, although I don't know why they did that. After killing him, they mutilated the body and carried it away."

And so on and so forth, not to take up any more time by reading this. So you wrote something that was completely to the contrary of what you've said over here.

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Watson: So he lied and lied and lied and lied?

Holmes: Yup.

Watson: That's rather naughty of him. I expect his Mummy will make him go to bed early. With no Ovaltine too.

Holmes: One would presume so. Anyway, the guy was probably the worst witness ever.
To round up, Slobo asked the witness about the numerous Loyallist Albanians, Serbs etc who were murdered by the KLA. It seems that our intrepid witness had close links with the KLA . Slobo had previously claimed the witness - and his family - raised money for the KLA which the witness denied. Later , however........

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Slobo: So you consider that the KLA is not a terrorist organisation and is not an extremist organisation, as far as I am able to understand your answer. Am I wrong in thinking that or not?
Witness: In my view, the KLA is not a terrorist organisation but an organisation that stood up in defence of the people and fought the Serb terror and atrocities perpetrated against the Albanian population of Kosovo.

Slobo:If they fought against Serb terror, why, then, did they kill so many Albanians? What do you have to say about that? What is your opinion?

Witness: If they have killed some Albanians who have been involved and cooperated with the Serb forces, that is, traitors to the nation, they may have done such a thing.

Slobo: So several hundred Albanians were traitors of the nation; is that what you're saying?

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Watson: My!!!! He's supporting the brutal murder of people just because they got their pay check from Belgrade?

Holmes: Yup. Well said. He thought that loyalist Albanians who worked as forest rangers, police, etc were traitors who deserved what they got.

Watson: And their families too. OOOOOOOOH!!!!!! What a nice man.

Holmes: In addition, it seems that our witness had an interesting view of Slav people.

Watson: In what way?

Holmes: He hates them

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Slobo: All right. You said that the Albanian population was cheerful when the bombing started, and these are your words. You said that, for you, it meant the end of Serb rule and the Slav peoples. That's what you said. "The end of Serb and Slavic rule."........I am asking you about what you yourself said. "The end of the rule of Slav peoples, Slav nations." Are you a racist?........
Well, you won't be able to imagine it without the presence of Serb elements. You needn't worry about that. But you said, "the end of Slav peoples, Slav nations." What have you got against the Slav nations, the Slav people?

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Watson: Ooooooooooh! What a charmer.

So, are you telling me that

1. His display was so inept, even the judge had to intervene
2. In fact, his display was so inept, even the prosecution had to have a wee chat with the lad
3. Before NATO started bombing, he admitted the Serb soldiers behaved well.
4. He claimed the local Serbs had planned to "lquidate" the Kosovo Albanian population. A claim which the prosecution refused to touch, it was so ridiculous.
5. The Serbs didn't tell him to leave, he was told by someone who said they'd heard it from the Serbs. Hearsay.
6. As was his many accounts of supposed Serb brutality.
7. His village had all the amenities of any modern Western village. A factory, running water, electricity, etc.
8. Many of the doctors in the area were Kosovo Albanian too
9. In his village, over 700 Kosovo Albanians were educated in the State system. He admitted this
10. The whole area was a KLA stronghold. Something the witness professed ignorance about
11. He claimed that the Serbs tried to "liquidate" the convoy, but was at a loss to explain how only two people were wounded.
12. He has no idea how Tahir Tahiri died. None. It was hearsay
13. The Serb forces actually wanted him to head deeper in Serbia.
14. Slobo makes the good point that Kosovo Albanian witnesses who went to Albania claim they had to hand over their IDs. However, those who went to Macedonia, Montenegro or deeper into Serbia didn't claim this. Is this because the Albanian guards would more likely go along with this silly story?
15. The worst thing that happened to the convoy was some Serb soldiers said rude words to them
16. He thought nothing wrong with Kosovo Albanians who worked as policemen, etc, being murdered. Along with their entire families.
17. He'd claimed that the Serb forces murdered a boy. However, Slobo points out that in fact the Kosovo Albanians tied the retarded boy to a tree, then left him there. To die. Which he did.
18. The witness's account varied enourmously with his written statements
19. He showed a hatred for all Slavs.

Holmes: Yup. Slobo kicks seven shades of crap out of another witness. Slobo wins charm lessons from Cary Grant: the ICTY? Charm lessons from The Donald.

Holmes and Watson: Arrrfffff!!!!!

Marvel Comics: The Bloke in the Bar VS Mr Amnesia

"MARVEL COMICS: THE BLOKE IN THE BAR VS MR. AMNESIA"

WITNESS 12: Hasan Pruthi

Testimony begins on page 1441

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Slobo cross examines on page 1464

Watson: I say Holmes, I heard that the next witness, a Mr Pruthi, got rave reviews in the MSM.

Holmes: Yes, they wax postively lyrical over his testimony. The Washington Post for instance were deeply impressed: " describing more than a decade of discrimination his people suffered at the hands of Serb authorities.........He said Serb forces set fire to the old part of the city of Djakovica when NATO's bombing began in March 1999. "There are hundreds and hundreds of witnesses who saw Serb troops set fire to the old part of town. It is a fact""

Watson: That beast, Slobo. How inhumane of you to do such wickedly nasty and nastily wicked things to civilians..........grrrrrrrrrr!...... ( makes silly dog impression ) .....Hold on, why did he talk of 100's of eye witnesses to Serb atrocities yet he, who wasn't there, was called instead?

Holmes: Good point. So far throughout the trial we've seen a Mr Amnesia and also a certain Mr Bloke in the bar have both figured prominently. In this witness's testimony you'll be able to see them go against each other, one to one.

Watson: Like Ali VS Frazier?

Holmes: All but identical. Two heavyweights slugging it out.

Watson: Bring it on!!!

Holmes: Steady on! A few details to get out of the way before the slugfest can begin. He was in Djakovica on the 10th of October, 1947. He's a lawyer and currently working as a legal advisor for the Norwegian Council of Refugees, and he worked as a judge, first in the Municipal Court of Djakovica from 1976 to 1978, and after, in Gjakove Business Court from 1978 to 1991? He's a Kosovo Albanian. He says that the Kosovo Albanians were discrimminated against in the courts

Watson: Seconds out!! .........( rings imaginary bell )....... Ding ding!
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( 1443 )

Question: Mr. Pruthi, during all the time that you worked as a lawyer and as a judge in Kosovo, more specifically in Djakovica did you notice any difference in treatment between Serbs and Albanians?
Witness: Of course I noticed a difference. I might say that in 1991, the Serbian parliament at that time made a discriminatory decision according to which the Commercial Court of Djakovica district was dissolved and about 40 employees were left on the streets without work.
Question: Mr. Pruthi, why you say that this decision was a discriminatory decision?
Witness: Because this court was an adjudicating court, and this decision was taken at a time when the Federal Ministry of Yugoslavia had given -- had greatly praised the work of this court, and there was no reason to dissolve it at all.
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In addition, he claimed that Kosovo Albanians had difficulty registering their business
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( 1444 )

Question: Were there a lot of applications by Albanians to register their firms?
Witness: There were applications to register firms because this was a year when the law on enterprises came into effect. It was the time of Ante Markovic. And according to this law, people were given the opportunity to register private companies and to turn their property and to start joint enterprises with public enterprises. So this court was responsible for enforcing this law and registering various kinds of property.
Question: And how did the abolishment of this court by the Serb parliament affect the Albanians?
Witness: Because this court extended its authority over the entire plane of Dukagjin. It was involved in administering the economic life of this entire part of Kosovo. So the abolition of this court, it was a blow to this entire part of Kosovo.
Question: Mr. Pruthi, if the Albanians wanted to register their private business at that time, with the abolishment of that court, where they had to go?
Witness: At that time, there were two courts working in Kosovo. There was the Pristina economic court and the one in Djakovica which was abolished. Albanians at that time who wanted to register their court [sic] at the Economic Court in Pristina were instructed and were unable to register their firms because the officers of that court refused to register them after the Djakovica court was abolished.
Question: There was any particular reason why they couldn't register their firms in Pristina?
Witness: According to the rules, any refusal of an application by citizens, any registration of a company needed a written reason of any failure to register it, and the court didn't supply these but merely refused them orally.
)
He claimed that Albanians were treated much worse than Serbs
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( 1446 )

Witness: The treatment was not the same, in fact, because the applications of Albanians dragged and were prolonged and were not settled for a long time, while Serbian applications were settled immediately. And a large number of Albanian applications were also refused.
Question: Do you know -- do you personally know Albanians who had problems in obtaining this authorisation?

Witness: There were plenty of cases but I can't give you a name.
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Watson: ARF
Holmes: He can't give a single example.
Watson: Snigger.
Holmes: It gets funnier
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( 1446 )

Question:How many applications between -- how many Serbian applications were admitted in comparison with how many Albanian applications were denied?
Witness: The Serbian percentage, when I'm talking about Kosovo, there were fewer applications, of course, from Kosovo, from Serbs, than from Albanians. But as I said before, the Albanian applications were refused and some others were settled, but over a very long period.
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Watson: So he doesn't give any concrete numbers, in fact all he can say is "some Albanian applications were refused and some others were settled".
Holmes: Exactly. So some were accepted and some weren't. Like in every system in the world. It's called reality. So basically it's just his unsubstantiated opinion . He's got no names as examples or numbers to back any of it up .
Watson: ARF
Holmes: He claimed that only Serbian was used in courts, not Albanian
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( 1447 )

Question: While performing your duties as a lawyer and a judge as well, what was the language used in applications and documents?

Witness: As you know, before the overthrow of Kosovo's autonomy, Albanian was an official language, but not afterwards, so that communications in the district courts were made only in Serbian. I'm talking about the municipal court in Djakovica. And applications in writing always had to be made in the Serbian language. If they were made in Albanian, they were immediately sent back and refused by the office.

)
Watson: I say, Holmes, what's his definition of the KLA
Holmes: His definition of the KLA? You know them. They have links with Al Qaeda, slaughtered loyalist Kosovo Albanians in their hundreds prior to 1999 and continued after NATO took over. About 3,000 Kosovo Serbs were wiped out after NATO took over and every minority is history in Kosovo. Everyone. They accomplished Judenfrei in 99, they dominate the heroin and sex slave business and flog semtex to the Real IRA in their spare time.
Watson: Yes, them.
Holmes: Well, it seem the ICTY's witness has a slightly different definition of these charmers . Slightly different
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( 1447 )

Witness: The KLA was a force that appeared during the war in Kosovo, a force that was -- stood by the unarmed people who were suffering, were defenceless, and they always defended the population who were in such danger from the murderous Serbian forces
)
Watson: And my name's Gunga Din.
Holmes: He tells of events in late 1998
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( 1451 )

Witness:Yes. I remember well the flight of a part of the population from the villages roundabout Djakovica in 1998. These people streamed toward and Djakovica were pushed by Serbian police and military forces and were forced to leave their houses. These people told how they were chased by Serbian police and army, how their houses were burned, and some were killed by their fellow villagers and were always taunted by the words and were told to leave their house -- to leave their houses as soon as possible and go to Albania because what were they looking for here in Kosovo? The population told how they were obliged by this horror to leave their villages.
)
Watson: And how did he know?
Holmes: I think you know the answer to that. You guessed it, it's our old friend, "the bloke in the pub". You can't keep a good guy down.
Watson: Howdy doody bloke in the bar. So "bloke in the bar" gets on the scoreboard.

BITB ( Bloke In The Bar ) 1: Mr Amnesia 0

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Question: Did you personally speak with the villagers that arrived in Djakovica?
Witness: I spoke to these villagers personally because we were helping to accommodate them in various houses in Djakovica at this time.
Question: And did they tell who was pushing them away from their villages?
Witness: Yes, they did. They had not yet left their homes when they saw their homes in fire. They saw it with their own eyes

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Watson: But why couldn't the ICTY simply have called the witnesses who seen all this?
Holmes: Good point. Because it's all crap? All lies? All a web of fibs? A box of nonsense?
Watson: Anyway, bloke in the bar is off to a rowsing start.

BLIB 2: Mr. Amnesia 0

Hmmmmmmmmm. What about NATO's bombing campaign.


Holmes: NATO bombing? Boy, was it accurate. It seems they only hit Serb military installations. ONLY. Nothing else was even scratched. Not a cut, bruise or blemish ( 1454 )
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Question:Was any part of the town hit by the bombing?
Witness: No, it was not. They bombed the depots, the military barracks,and some other depots, military depots, which were located at Cabrat Hill. These were the two targets hit by NATO then, at that night
)
Watson: WOW!! That's accurate.
Holmes: There were some fires but it seems these were started by, yup , the Serbs themselves
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( 1453 )

Witness:I saw the old part of the town, Carshia e Madhe, otherwise known by this name. It was all set on fire. It has cultural, historical value, and that night it was all on fire. I was informed that it was the Serbian police that set fire to this part of the town using a special substance, to all the stores of the marketplace, and they also killed some people living there, whose houses are found in this part of the town. Several people were killed, among whom well-known Doctor Izet -- in front of his own family members. Izet Hima.
Question:How do you know that, Mr. Pruthi? Who told you that?
Witness: His own family members told this. They testified to his murder to the Council for the Protection of Human Rights and Freedoms, where I was also present.
Question: Did the doctor -- was he killed at the same time while the old part of the town was burning and in flames?
Witness: Yes. At the same time, Dr. Hima was killed, in the most brutal manner, in front of the eyes of his family.
Question:Mr. Pruthi, at the time you saw the flames was a very few hours after you saw the NATO airplanes. How do you know the burning of the old centre was not a result of the NATO bombing?
Witness: The flames appeared much later than the NATO planes left. This was certain, a certain fact. There are hundreds of people who saw with their own eyes Serbian police setting fire to this old part of the town. Hundreds and hundreds of witnesses have been there. So it's a fact that everybody has been testifying to.
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Holmes: Yup, it's our friendly tinker, "the bloke in the bar", again. Hundreds of witnesses saw this guy get murdered by the Serbs. HUNDREDS do you hear. But the ICTY didn't bother calling any of them, and instead relied on, altogether now, "the bloke in the bar"
Watson: ARF!!!

BLIB 3: Mr. Amnesia 0

Bloke in the bar is leaving Mr Amnesia in his wake.
Holmes: And he said that on the 2nd night he heard some people say "Go to Albania , leave Serbia". My, that's what I call a war crime, I can see the headlines now "Serbia charged for war crimes when a Serb is heard saying "leave my country at once". How evil can one get".
At 6 am the following morning , his wife's cousin's husband was killed, a Shevqet Pruthi. He went to see the body and noted that he "saw that both his soles were damaged from the fire of the automatic rifles, and part of his hand was also damaged, and his body was full of holes in the chest and in some other parts."
Watson: Did he see this death?
Holmes: NOPE.
Watson: Did his wife see this death?
Holmes: NOPE
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( 1457 )

Question: Did his wife -- did his wife see what happened to him?
Witness: She didn't see what happened. This criminal deed was committed in the very eyes of his daughter. Arta is her name. She saw her father killed in front of her eyes. She saw her father die in front of her eyes.
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Watson: So, this is essentially, "Son of Bloke in Bar"

BITB 4: Mr. A 0

And the question on everyone's lips is "What's happened to Mr. Amnesia?" He looked so good in the build up.
Holmes: Yes he did. Or perhaps this should be down to daughter of Bloke in Bar. Now, cynics amongst you will be wondering why the daughter wasn't called as a witness.
Watson: Erm. Good question. Why indeed.
Holmes: He stayed in his sisters house till April 2nd ( 1458 )
The following should give you an idea of the wretchedness of the testimony. We're talking bollox here, folks
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( 1458 )
Witness: During all this time, from 8.00 fire shots started. First the light went out and then automatic shots started. It was the sign that the Serbian police began its operations in various neighbourhoods of the city
Question: Mr. Pruthi, did you see who was shooting?
Witness: I didn't see who did the shooting, but on the 1st of April, when the Serbian police came to a neighbour, they threw some substance in the two upper floors of of his house, and then I saw the flames engulfing all the house.
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Watson: Sounds okay to me, Holmes
Holmes: But note that, firstly, he assumes the "lights out" was a signal for the Serb forces to start operations. He doesn't know anything, or see anything, it's just his assumption. Next, the bloke in the bar, of course. Where would we be without him, I ask. And of course he doesn't know that the "substance" the Serbs threw was some chemical to start fires. How could he? He just assumes it all.
He said "the police surrounded, encircled all the neighbourhood and started to kill and set fire to the houses". ( 1459 ) He didn't see it it's just his assumption.
He also "saw fire brigade coming, driving by, going to the houses on fire. Then on the next day, I found out that this truck protected a house of a Serbian inhabitant not to be burnt as a result of a burning house of an Albanian citizen that was close by to this house of the Serb. This is what the witnesses told me on the next day". ( 1459 )
Watson: Sad sad sad.
Holmes: And so the hearsay crap continues, and continues. It just spews out, pouring forth. FFS. An example
Watson: Language Timothy.
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( 1460 )

Question: How do you know that 20 Albanians were killed? Who told you?

Witness:I found out on the next day from the people who withdrew from this neighbourhood, and they had seen many people died. Apart from -- inaddition to this 20 that I'm talking about, they told me that they had left many people behind because they had to flee in a hurry. They didn't have time to see what was happening, you know. And they were told to go to Albania because that was not their place, they were told
)

BLIB 5: Mr. A 0. The rout continues.

And the following day

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Witness: This happened on the 2nd of April when in the yard of my home, of my house, I saw many Albanians had gathered there, and together we were discussing what to do. And then we heard that we had to organise to go to Albania, because we heard the police saying on that very day when they were driving out people from their own homes to flee these houses and go to Albania. This is what they were told.
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Watson: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH !!!!!!!!!

BLIB 6: Mr. A 0. Talk about a mismatch.

Holmes: So, 500 people set off to Albania. They went to Prizren, then to Albania, the police didn't touch them. He returned to his home on June 16th. He admitted that he hadn't left the town and admitted that the Serbs hadn't forced him out.

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Question:Mr. Pruthi, why did you decide to leave your town and Kosovo?
Witness: I decided to leave the city and to leave Kosovo because I saw with my own eyes people killed. I saw horror, fire. I heard from other people the most terrible stories of what they had experienced in their own homes, so I decided to leave Kosovo and to save the lives of my children.

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Holmes: Just to repeat, "I decided to leave the city and to leave Kosovo" . We've yet to have a single witness claim they were forced out of Kosovo by the Serb forces.

Slobo's cross examination

Watson: How did it go?
Holmes: How can I put this? The guy didn't have a prayer against Slobo, not a prayer. Bear in maind that the witness had testified that he'd lost his job when the Commercial Court in Djakovica in 1991 was dissolved. Now a funny exchange. The court was dissolved but the witness claimed "the reasons given at the time were not correct." ( 1464 ) So........
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Slobo:And what were those reasons that were stipulated?
Witness: I don't remember. I don't remember.
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Watson: ARF!!!!Holmes: Yessir, he can't remember what the reasons were, but whatever they were, he knows for sure they weren't correct.
Watson: Brilliant
Holmes: He had to admit that the Serbs who worked there also lost their jobs . He countered that they found other jobs , so Slobo counters that with "I assume that you found another job too, as far as I can read from these documents here" ( 1465 )
Watson: Easy meat for Slobo
Holmes: And so it goes on, the witness serves up a lame lob, Slobo thunders it right back with interest. For example
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1465 )

Slobo:You said that the Albanians would apply to have their companies registered.

Witness: On the basis of the law.

Slobo: Of course on the basis of the law. Did Serbs make applications to register their own companies too?

Witness: There were a few applications.

Slobo:So both the Serbs and the Albanians would make their applications to register their companies in the same place; is that right?

Witness: Yes.

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The witness had claimed that Albanians couldn't start a business. Another lame lob for Slobo to smash back
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( 1467 )

Witness: Oral replies were given immediately and they were told that they didn't have the right to register. This happened at the Pristina court, and people who submitted applications were mistreated. A very small number did register.

Slobo: You're a lawyer yourself, and you should know, you ought to know that on the basis of that law, if you do not receive registration in a brief period of time, it is considered that the company is registered lawfully. In the law it is stated that if there is no reply after a certain deadline, after a short period of time has elapsed, it is considered that the answer and response has been automatically allowed and that the company has been registered. This was a provision to avoid corruption, discrimination, friendly ties with officials. So I'm well aware of provisions of this kind.

)
Watson: ARF!!
Holmes: On page 1469, Slobo points out that on the 24th of March, when the war broke out on the territory of the municipality of Djakovica, there were 8.900 privately owned firms owned by Albanians and they were operating normally
Watson: Almost 9,000?
Holmes: Yep ,in one municipality there were almost 9,000 privately run KOSOVO ALBANIAN businesses. The witness doesn't deny it. And when asked to explain that "from 1994, 861 gasoline stations were registered in Kosovo and only 20 of them were Serb owned out of 861" all he could say was the less than brilliant "I don't know that".
Watson: ARF!!'
Holmes: Slobo then points out the discrimmination against the NON Kosovo Albanian population
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( 1470 )

Slobo: In your municipality, there was one case. For example, in the village of Meca, in the 1980s, Miodrag Saric was killed in his field, before the eyes of his entire family, because he did not want to sell his field. Do you remember that case?

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And
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( 1470 )

Slobo:Very well. Are you aware of other pressure and murders in order to force people to sell their property and leave their property behind?

Witness: No, I don't know of any such cases.

Slobo: Very well. Do you remember, for example, the village of Ratis, which is near you, how many families left that village - that's in your neighbourhood - and left their property because of beatings, rapes, torchings, in the 1980s? Do you remember these examples from the village of Ratis?

Witness:No, I don't remember.

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Slobo points out the many forgeries and irregularities that his court carried out , and the witness starts to blub to the judges with this pile of blubber

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Witness: Distinguished Judge, I think such questions are irrelevant. I am not called here to explain the procedure, I think, of the parliament or of the law, Your Honour.

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Watson: Oh, boo hoo hoo, you friggin' Nancy boy
Holmes: Language Timothy. Some more giggles
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( 1472 )
Slobo:In response the Prosecutor's question as to whether Serbs were refused in terms of their requests, you said that there were far less applications by Serbs. And now my question is whether Serbs were also refused like Albanians were refused?

Witness: I don't remember that.

Slobo: Did anything in that law pertain to Albanians only?

Witness: The Albanians were not allowed to sell their properties without having the consent of this ministry first.

Slobo: I'm asking you whether the Serbs were allowed to sell their property without the consent of the ministry.

Witness: The Serbs who lived in Kosovo did not allow to sell their properties without having the approval of this ministry either.

Slobo: That means that Serbs and Albanians were in the same position.

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Mr. Amnesia gets onto the scoreboard. It's BITB 6: Mr. A 1. But has he left it too late?

It's like taking candy from a baby, or in this case, heroin from the KLA. About not being allowed to use the Albanian language in court, etc
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( 1473 )

Slobo: Do you know that in the law of the Republic of Serbia governing use of language, it says that in municipalities in which national minorities comprise the majority population, the language of the national minority concerned is equally used officially with -- along with the Serbian language throughout the territory of Serbia?
Witness: I explained earlier that this right was trampled in the most flagrant manner.
Slobo: I asked you whether you know that this is what the law says quite strictly, what I quoted a minute ago.
Witness: Yes. I said that the right existed, but it was not enforced in real terms.
Slobo: Do you know that this law also applies to Bulgarians where they are the majority, for Hungarians where they are the majority, for all other national minorities on the territory in Serbia and that it is observed everywhere?
Witness: I don't know whether that law has been respected also in other territories. I don't know.
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The KLA And Amnesia

Holmes: Boy has this lad got it bad. And I mean real bad, daddio.
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( 1474 )

Slobo: You said that the KLA appeared during the war. Can you answer the following question: Who, then, killed so many people before the war in terrorist attacks?

Witness: I don't know that. ( Mr Amnesia scores again.)

Slobo: Well, do you know that this was done by the KLA?

Witness: No. This fact I don't know. ( Mr. A 3 )

Slobo:You don't know?

Witness: No, I don't. No, I am not informed about that.
Slobo: Do you know that from the 1st of January, 1998, until the war broke out, that is to say just before the war broke out, the terrorists killed -- the terrorists killed 186 citizens who were ethnic Albanians?

WItness: I don't know this fact. ( Mr. A. 4 )
Slobo: And do you know how many households from the municipality of Djakovica were expelled at that time due to ethnic cleansing?
Witness: What families, please?
Slobo:Serb families. I'm going to read out a number of them to you. Perhaps you will remember at least some of these families from your municipality, because you were a judge there. Babovic Miloje, then Milinko Babovic, Bogoslav Babovic, Branko Jekic, Milun Fatic [phoen], Zoran Fatic, Mika Vulic [phoen], Damjan Garic, Bogoslav Garic, Hodzoma Slovic [phoen], Radila Kicevic [phoen], Jelica Jukic, Miljic Stijovic [phoen], Slobodan Vuksanovic, Ranko Vukadinovic, Petrosav Vuksanovic , Dragutin Frentic [phoen], Nusko Stejanovic [phoen], Predrag Micunovic, Aleksandra Stojanovic, Spasoj Petkovic [phoen], Dragan Petkovic, Fron Gagovic [phoen], Vejo Ibrahimovic [phoen], Vojin Petkovic --
Judge: Mr. Pruthi, do you recognise any of those names? Can you help us about any of them?
Witness: I don't know these names, but I didn't keep any evidence of migration from the town. ( Mr Amnesia 5 )


Slobo: But you lived in that town. You probably know some of these people. You probably know that they were forced out of there. Are you trying to say that you do not know any one of these people, any one of these cases?
Witness: I don't remember these people migrating because they were forced. ( Mr A 6 )
Slobo: All right. Let me remind you of some of the other names. Perhaps you knew them, and I did not read those names out. Do any of these names mean something to you? The families, I'm reading the heads of families. Milorad Radovanovic, Karovic Vujadin, Delovic Petar, Delovic Nikola, Delovic Anica, Srenev Bozidar [phoen], Jevtovic Dusan, Sarenac Roza, Bibercic Draga, Bibercic Marija, Sarovic Mara, Kovacevic Bozidar, Grubisic Nediljka [phoen], Krstic Mirko, Arandzelovac Zoran, Babovic Slobodan, Babovic Savka, Vulevic Savka, Soskic Misko, Vulevic Radan, Vulevic Vujicka [phoen], Mitic Slavko [phoen], Adzic Boris, Lakic Bosko, Dzakovic Blagoje , Simonovic Drago, Zindivic Rajko [phoen], Pantic Ljubica, Radojcic Nikola, Pantic Dragoljub, Pantic Dragomir, Pantic Momcilo, Tun Kasnjeti --
Judge:Just pause. Again, do you know any of these names?
Witness: I don't know any of them. I said before that I didn't keep any evidence of these things, and I don't know these names. 

Mr Amnesia 7

Slobo:There is a list of 80 families here that were expelled. The former president of the court, and lawyer, does not know of a single case, and all of them are from Djakovica.
I shall move on to the next question, because you talked about the situation in the municipality in response to the Prosecutor's questions related to tensions in the municipality, along with the explanation that these tensions were generated by the Serb police from 1980 onwards. Do you know of killings in the territory of the municipality of Djakovica from the beginning of 1998 until the outbreak of the war on the 24th of March, 1999, for example, the policemen that were killed: On the 1st of August, 1998, Zeljko Bozic, policeman; on the 10th of August, 1998, Zoran Jovanovic. Do you know of any one of them?
WItness: No, I don't know. 

Mr Amnesia 8

Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Sasa Jovanovic, policeman, on the 14th of June, 1998?
Witness: No. I know only of some citizens of Gjakove who were killed and were found in the morning on the outskirts of the city. 
Slobo: Do you know of the killing of a policeman on the 29th of January, 1999? The policeman was called Predrag Rakovic.
Witness; No. 

Mr Amnesia 9 

Slobo:Do you know of the killing of the policeman Nebojsa Savic on the 5th of August, 1998?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 10 

Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Zoran Slavkovic, also a policeman, on the 8th of March, 1999?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia Eeeeeeeeeleven 

Slobo: And Slavoljub Stanisavljevic, also on the 8th of March, 1999? Do you know of the killing of these policemen?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia Tweeeeeeelveeeeeeer 

Slobo:All right. And do you know about the killing of Albanians, Albanian civilians, in the territory of Djakovica from the beginning of 1998 until the 24th of March, 1999? Pajak Binak, killed on the 4th of May, 1998? Do you know about him?
Witness:No, I've never heard of him. ( 13 yawn )
Slobo: And do you know of the killing of Nisa Nedjar [phoen] on the 19th of May, 1998? The 19th of May, 1998.
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 14 nods off 

Slobo: And do you know of the killing of Abaz Hoti on the 18th of July, 1998?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 15 deep sleep 

Slobo: Do you know of the killing of Krasniqi Prec on the 6th of August, 1998?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 16 very deep sleep

Slobo:And Krasniqi Prend? They were both killed on the same day. And Merturi Mira and Merturi Prend?
WItness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 17 wakes up 

Slobo:All four on the same day?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 18 nods off again 

Slobo:And do you know of the killing of Dreni Zef on the 29th of October, 1998?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 19 becomes Buddhist monk and moves to Lhasa

Slobo:That happened in Djakovica. What about Kelmendi Haxhi, on the 24th of January, 1999?
Witness: No. 

Mr Amnesia 20 Returns. Didn't like the high altitude 

Slobo: That is the 24th of January, 1999, when Kelmendi Besim and Kelmendi Shaban and Kurti Samir were killed, as well as Kurti Hisin [phoen]. You don't remember this big killing?
Witness: No. 

 Mr Amnesia 21. Returns to Lhasa

Slobo: Gentlemen, I am asking questions with respect to the killings of Albanians in the Djakovica municipality, and Djakovica is not an overly large town, and every citizen of that municipality must have known about these killings; not one of them, but many of them. There are a large number of them here that I have quoted.
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The judge put and end to the slaughter. The witness has been impaled by Slobo. Then after all of this , the witness is asked ( 1490 ) "Who was doing the killing before the war, as far as you were aware? If you can assist us, tell us; if you can't, just say so."
The witness replies with the slightly under par "I don't know". Indeed he doesn't
Slobo rams the final nail into the witness's coffin.
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( 1490 )

Slobo: I used the word that was used by the witness, namely, that it was the police who made problems. And as I presented an enormous list of killings which the KLA terrorists committed, precisely on the territory of Djakovica municipality up until the start of the war, I wanted to hear from the witness how he assesses the situation. Who actually caused all this? Was it really the police or was it the terrorists who had killed so many people, and, for the most part, civilians, as you can see, and amongst them, a large number of Albanians, too, as you can see. Let me remind you that 196 Albanians were killed by the KLA
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Watson: BRAVO SLOBO

About the NATO bombing
The witness makes a bold but slightly ridiculous claim
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( 1491 )
Slobo: Did NATO planes hit any houses in Djakovica? Let me put it that way.

Witness: No. No NATO aircraft hit any house. I can say so with a full sense of responsibility.
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Holmes: Slobo shows hims photos of damage from the bombings. I mean it's beyond pathetic, really. A quarter of a billion bucks a year and the best we get is this monkey?
Watson: Fuck a duck
Holmes: Language Timothy. The witness can not be stopped and repeats his claim
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( 1492 )

Witness: The bombing caused no fires in houses of the city of Djakovica, not a single house.

Slobo: How do you know that?

WItness: Everybody knows this. All the citizens of Djakovica know this. It's a well-known truth. Not a single bomb from a single NATO aircraft ever fell on a roof of a house in Djakovica

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Watson: You can not be serious.
Holmes: Yes , you read it straight, NATO, whose missiles landed in Bulgaria, Chinese embassies, etc were spot on when it came to little Djakovica. SPOT ON. It's all those carrots their pilots eat.
Watson: So Slobo tells him how many bombs fell from NATO planes ( page 1504 ). Go on, take a guess, how many landed in the city? I'll give you a clue. It's more than two.

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Slobo: Do you know that during the war, 898 bombs were thrown on Djakovica - the area of Djakovica, that is - 898 bombs fell there?
Witness: No, I don't know this.
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BITB 6: Mr. A 22. Well, surely the comeback of the year. Bloke in the bar looked out for the count but 22 unanswered points leaves him in an impregnable position. Back to you Bob
Holmes: 8 9 8 BOMBS ON A SMALLISH TOWN. 8 9 8. Think about that. 8 9 8. About the police shooting at about 500 Kosovo Albanians
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Slobo: You said that the police shot when 500 of you had been gathered there. Who did the police shoot at? You said that they didn't shoot at you, so who did the police shoot at? Was it only the police who were doing the shooting or anybody else? Do you know anything about that?
Witness: People saw the police with their own eyes, firing at Albanian civilians.

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BITB 7: Mr. Amnesia 22. Hold the bus, he's back. Mr A is back with a bang. Over to you Bob

Watson: Aaaaaah!! He's back.
Holmes: Yes , he's back , the bloke in the bar. He claimed that all the destruction was done by the Serbs in the town and none by the KLA or NATO. NONE
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Slobo: Do you have any idea at all as to who in Djakovica killed during the war -- here I have a list of 11 policemen. The ones I read out earlier on was before the war, but who killed 11 policemen in Djakovica during the war? That's what I'm asking you now. Do you have any idea?

Witness: I have no knowledge of this.

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Watson: Aaaaaaah! The poor lad can't explain it.
Holmes: Indeed, the wee ladee is most lost. The poor lad said the Serb police treated the refugees in a most "brutal manner". Yes, brutal. Like really mean. Brutish. Thuggish. You get the picture. So Slobo asks him to describe the brutality in more detail. Any squeamish people should stop reading and seek counselling. This is pretty horrific brutality
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Slobo: Could you tell me what was this mistreatment, this brutal way that they treated them? You did not explain that anybody mistreated you on your way to the border.
Witness: Don't you think it's an act of mistreatment when Serbian police, when we arrived at the first roadblock, in the most harsh way mistreated the citizens in their cars, asking them to hand over their IDs, ridiculing them, and showing them the place where they were to go from where they would never return to Kosovo they told them?
Slobo: So they were mistreating them by asking for their IDs. Is that what the police did?
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Watson: I say, that's terrible treatment. Sacrcasm and mocking. How long can human beings sink?
Holmes: Yep. They took the piss and asked for their IDs. The bastards, how long can one sink. Outrageous.
Watson: ARF

Loyalist Kosovo Albanians

Holme: This is something you never hear about in the MSM. Kosovo Albanians who had guts, decency and balls and said "NO" to the KLA. Many paid for it with their and their family's lives. The witness, despite being a local judge, has no idea about any of this. NONE
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Slobo: Do you know that not a single Albanian from the 18 villages of the Djakovica municipality where Albanian Catholics lived did not move out, did not leave his or her village, although the KLA made every effort to have them removed as well?

Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 23 

Slobo: And do you know about the village of Meca, where the villagers were calling the army to come to free them from KLA pressures, since they were making them leave and go to Albania? Do you know of that example?
Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 24 

Slobo: You know about the village of Batusa, two kilometres away from town and also the village of Borovina that the terrorists expelled the entire village to the town of Djakovica and that the villagers returned to the village only when the army drove away the terrorists?
Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 25 

Slobo:And do you know about the village of Junik where the terrorists, when they had to withdraw before the army, they took along with them 700women and children to act as a human shield, a human shield for them until they got to the border? When they reached the border, they let them goback to Junik.
Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 26

Slobo: And do you know the following: that 18.000 persons left Djakovica and went to Albania , whereas the population of Djakovica, the municipality of Djakovica, is 110.000, whereas the population of the town of Djakovica is 70.000?
Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 27 

Slobo: And do you know of the village of Lukbunar, where the KLA forced the entire village to go to Albania and then the army returned them? Allthe way from Vrbnica, they returned them to the village, and when they got back to the village, the village was intact, nothing had been touched inthe village. Do you know of that incident?
Witness doesn't know 

Mr Amnesia 28 

Slobo:Does the witness know that at the beginning of April, in the village of Glodjane, the KLA detained 21 Serbs and two Romany, that theytortured them and then they took them to the village of Donji Ratis and executed them by Lake Radonish? They were discovered 15 days later, buried by the Orthodox cemetery. There were children killed there. Babies were found there with bottles. 21 Serbs and two Romanies first tortured and taken to the village of Donji Ratis and then killed, executed in the canal by Lake Radonish. Do you know of that incident, at least?

Witness doesn't know

Mr Amnesia 29 and at this point the ref stops the fight. Bloke In The Bar put up a good showing but the Mr Amnesia avalanche was just too much. Back to you in the studio 

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Holmes: Bear in mind that this guy was a municipal judge. And he's pretending to be a thick as pig shit here on local matters. It beggars belief.

Kosovo Albanians and Jobs
Remember that a key point of the ICTY's case against Slobo is that the Kosovo Albanians were discrimminated against. Give Slobo 5 minutes and he destroys that. Go get 'em Slobo
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Slobo:The Emin Duraku company, a cotton mill which had 6.800 workers, 120 Serbs, the director was an Albanian; is that correct?
Witness admits it
Slobo: And the Metaliku company with 800 employees, only 10 of them Serbs, the director once again an Albanian?
Witness denys it
Slobo: Have you heard about the motor factory, 1.200 employees, only ten of them Serbs, and the director once again was an Albanian? Electrical motor factory.
Witness admits it
Slobo:Do you know about the model factory with 400 employees, several Serbs that you can count on the fingers of your hand, and the director once again an Albanian, producing carpentry-wear. Dolarija [phoen].
Witness denys it

Slobo: What about the Agimi slaughterhouse, 120 employees, 10 of them Serbs, the director once again an Albanian. Was that operational?
Witness denys it
Slobo: What about Tik Dukagjin, was that operation?
Judge wades in to save the witness and stops the witness from answering. Judge is upset
Slobo: How many Albanians were employed in the Municipal Assembly of Djakovica? Was the Municipal Assembly operating at all ? Is it correct that in the Municipal Assembly, that is to say in the municipal administration in Djakovica, there were 320 Albanians employed and 210 Serbs?

Witness didn't know the numbers
Slobo: What about the Isa Grezda Medical Centre in Djakovica? Was it working?

Witness agrees
Slobo: Do you know that in this medical centre, Isa Grezda, there were 780 employees and 740 of them were Albanians?

Witness didn't know it existed

Slobo: And do you know that the heating plant worked in town? Not a single Serb was employed at the heating plant, only Albanians.

Witness: That I don't know.


Slobo: You don't know about that either. And do you know about the Agimi Trading Company, that is to say, the one that had retail shops?

Judge is getting very upset and stops Slobo from asking anymore questions along this line
Slobo: I am talking about your assertion that Albanians were discriminated against, and I presented a series of companies here where it is quite obvious that 99 per cent or 95 per cent of all employees were lbanians and all the managers of these companies were Albanians. So your assertion now is that all of this is not true.

Witness doesn't answer and so talks about something else


Slobo: All right. Are you aware, for example, that the bank Investbanka in Djakovica had -- all its employees were Albanians and an Albanian manager? Was that bank working?

Witness doesn't know
SLobo: You don't know about that? Do you know that in the territory of the municipality of Djakovica, in the local police, there were 68 Albanians who were employed there at the very outset, at the very beginning of the war?

Witness doesn't know

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Watson: Bloody 'ell, now that's what I call a cross examination. So are you telling me that

1. He claimed that Serbs got preferential treatment when they wanted to start up a business but when asked to give a single example, he couldn't
2. He was unaware that all the employees of the local main bank were Kosovo Albanian
3. As with the heating plant. Not a single Serb was employed there.
4. Nearly all the employees in the medical centre were Kosovo Albanian
5. A similar situation with the slaughterhouse in his hometown and
6. The car engine factory
7. The large carpentry factory
8. The cottton mill which employed over 6,000 people. Only a couple of 100 were Serbs
9. He was also completely unaware of the numerous terror activities of the KLA even though he was a municipal judge and the town was small. About 70,000 inhabitants.
10. He was also unaware that not a single catholic Kosovo Albanian village supported the KLA despite continuous threats from the terror group.
11. He wasn't forced to go to Albania, he chose to go
12. He claimed that the Serb soldiers treated him "brutally" but when pressed was forced to admit that all they were guilty of was rude words and throwing his ID on the ground.
13. He made the slightly silly claim that NATO only hit military targets even though almost 1,000 targets were hit by NATO.
14. He was forced to admit that, under Belgrade rule, municipalities that had a large minority could adopt that minorities language as an official language along with Serbian
15. With regards to the selling of property, He also admitted that the Serbs were treated just like the Kosovo Albanians
16. He didn't deny the fact that in that one municipality there were almost 9,000 Kosovo Albanian run businesses
17. His testimony was riddled with hearsay evidence. Wholly unacceptable.
18. He had nothing but kind words to say about the KLA, though they have links to Al Qaeda and control the heroin industry in Europe.

Holmes: Yup. The slugfest is over. Slobo wins acting masterclasses from Al Pachino: the ICTY? Acting classes from Sid James

Holmes and Watson: ARF!!!!